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Re: Various Posts
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- From: Mark Ressa <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:59:03 -0700
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>>>I've subscribed because we are shopping for a new bike for my wife. We
have narrowed the decision down to between the Sprint ST and the Honda
VFR800. Both are obviously fine machines. It appears the ST may be the
better choice as far as the "T" side of Sport/Touring goes, which is
important to us.<<<
Don't underestimate the "S" side of the ST. If there is a difference between
the ST and the VFR in this regard, it is very slight. The only handling
limitation I've experienced, if you can call it that, in comparing the ST with
other "sportbikes," is in tight turns (i.e., 15-20 MPH posted). In such turns,
I have to drop my weight to the inside a little more to hold a line. Even
then,
it simply isn't as fast though such tight turns as say a VTR. I attribute this
to weight more than any inherent handling deficiency of the ST although the ST
does have a rather long wheelbase, which may also account for this handling
trait.
As for the "T" side, I recently chatted with 2 VFR owners, who told me they
were thinking of trading their bikes for ST?s. They said the VFR is a great
"Sunday/canyon bike," but is not nearly as good for trips.
>>>I also think it has more "character" and is certainly
far less common on the road. I suspect the Honda may be a bit more
reliable and/or less idiosyncratic, and probably have easier parts
availability. She has ridden and likes both bikes.<<<
I would definitely agree with your statement that the ST has more "character"
and that the ST is less common than the VFR. As for reliability, I keep
expecting something to happen. I've been programmed like everyone else to
think
that Honda's are reliable and Triumph's are not. Knock on wood, but with over
4,500 miles on the odometer, I've yet to experience a significant problem.
>>>I guess what I am looking for is input to push us off center and make
the decision. I've lurked here for a day now, and it does seem that
you are all very happy with the bike. What are the plusses and minusses
compared to the VFR, or just in general. What are the idiosyncrasies?<<<
I come from the sportbike side of riding. Right now, I have an old Intercepter
and 2 Ducati's in the garage. In year?s past, I've done club racing at Willow
Springs. I've also taken what I use to consider "long trips" on both Ducati's.
On the 900 SS-SP, I was in so much pain (i.e., back, neck, wrist) and was so
happy to have reached Monterey (i.e., about 400+ miles from So. Cal.) that I
cried. I've also had a wrist surgery as a direct result of the ?supple"
suspension and "ergonomically correct" riding position of the 900. Needless to
say, when I was looking at the ST, the ST-2, the ST-4, the VFR and the R1100S,
I was looking for something I could take a trip on without having to undergo
surgery. With the ST, I've completed a couple of 450+ mile days. Although I
would be less than honest to say I was feeling "fresh" at the end of these
rides, I was in much better condition than the guys I was riding with. As for
the "S" side of the ST, I no longer feel the need to have another sportbike in
my garage. My "other" bikes are now for sale. For me, I consider the ST to be
?the perfect bike.?
>>> "Stephen E. Hale" <seh750@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 12/06/99 07:00:58 >>>
Just thought I'd mention that Classic Cycle (or something like that) in
Layton, Utah is a good shop. I burned up the rear BT57 on my Sprint ST in
less than 4000 miles (what a crappy tire, but that's another subject) and
they helped me out. The cool part was they didn't have any 180/55ZR17
tires in stock so they called the other local dealers and found one who had
a tire and could do the installation.<<<
So what did you get and how does it compare to the BT57? My Bridgestone is
dead
after 4,500 miles. Actually, I thought it handled pretty well until the last
couple of hundred miles when I slid 3 times. I'm thinking of getting 207s,
although I'm concerned when I read that the ST was designed "around" the
BT57's. Any thoughts?
>>>Dan, I also have the Arai RX7-XX and could not recommend it as a quiet
helmet by any means. It is widely used by track/race teams as it has excellent
fit and ventilation but compared to the Quantum e or the newer Shoei models it
is very noisy! I would definitely try the other Arai and Shoei models for
comparison first. I dont think the RX7 is worth the extra cash.<<<
Actually, I was thinking of getting the Read Historic Replica RX7-XX. Noise is
an issue with me. Are there any other about the RX7-XX?
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<div>>>>I've subscribed because we are shopping for a new bike
for my wife. We </div>
<div>have narrowed the decision down to between the Sprint ST and the
Honda </div>
<div>VFR800. Both are obviously fine machines. It appears the ST may be
the </div>
<div>better choice as far as the "T" side of Sport/Touring
goes, which is </div>
<div>important to us.<<<</div>
<br>
<div>Don't underestimate the "S" side of the ST. If there is a
difference between the ST and the VFR in this regard, it is very slight.
The only handling limitation I've experienced, if you can call it that,
in comparing the ST with other "sportbikes," is in tight turns
(i.e., 15-20 MPH posted). In such turns, I have to drop my weight to the
inside a little more to hold a line. Even then, it simply isn't as fast
though such tight turns as say a VTR. I attribute this to weight more
than any inherent handling deficiency of the ST although the ST does have
a rather long wheelbase, which may also account for this handling
trait.</div>
<br>
<div>As for the "T" side, I recently chatted with 2 VFR owners,
who told me they were thinking of trading their bikes for ST=92s. They said
the VFR is a great "Sunday/canyon bike," but is not nearly as
good for trips.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>>>>I also think it has more "character" and is
certainly </div>
<div>far less common on the road. I suspect the Honda may be a bit more
</div>
<div>reliable and/or less idiosyncratic, and probably have easier parts
</div>
<div>availability. She has ridden and likes both
bikes.<<<</div>
<br>
<div>I would definitely agree with your statement that the ST has more
"character" and that the ST is less common than the VFR. As for
reliability, I keep expecting something to happen. I've been programmed
like everyone else to think that Honda's are reliable and Triumph's are
not. Knock on wood, but with over 4,500 miles on the odometer, I've yet
to experience a significant problem.</div>
<br>
<div>>>>I guess what I am looking for is input to push us off
center and make </div>
<div>the decision. I've lurked here for a day now, and it does seem that
</div>
<div>you are all very happy with the bike. What are the plusses and
minusses </div>
<div>compared to the VFR, or just in general. What are the
idiosyncrasies?<<<</div>
<br>
<div>I come from the sportbike side of riding. Right now, I have an old
Intercepter and 2 Ducati's in the garage. In year=92s past, I've done club
racing at Willow Springs. I've also taken what I use to consider
"long trips" on both Ducati's. On the 900 SS-SP, I was in so
much pain (i.e., back, neck, wrist) and was so happy to have reached
Monterey (i.e., about 400+ miles from So. Cal.) that I cried. I've also
had a wrist surgery as a direct result of the =93supple" suspension
and "ergonomically correct" riding position of the 900.
Needless to say, when I was looking at the ST, the ST-2, the ST-4, the
VFR and the R1100S, I was looking for something I could take a trip on
without having to undergo surgery. With the ST, I've completed a couple
of 450+ mile days. Although I would be less than honest to say I was
feeling "fresh" at the end of these rides, I was in much better
condition than the guys I was riding with. As for the "S" side
of the ST, I no longer feel the need to have another sportbike in my
garage. My "other" bikes are now for sale. For me, I consider
the ST to be =93the perfect bike.=94</div>
<br>
<div>>>> "Stephen E. Hale"
<seh750@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 12/06/99 07:00:58 >>> </div>
<div>Just thought I'd mention that Classic Cycle (or something like that)
in </div>
<div>Layton, Utah is a good shop. I burned up the rear BT57 on my Sprint
ST in </div>
<div>less than 4000 miles (what a crappy tire, but that's another
subject) and </div>
<div>they helped me out. The cool part was they didn't have any
180/55ZR17 </div>
<div>tires in stock so they called the other local dealers and found one
who had </div>
<div>a tire and could do the installation.<<< </div>
<br>
<div>So what did you get and how does it compare to the BT57? My
Bridgestone is dead after 4,500 miles. Actually, I thought it handled
pretty well until the last couple of hundred miles when I slid 3 times.
I'm thinking of getting 207s, although I'm concerned when I read that the
ST was designed "around" the BT57's. Any thoughts?</div>
<br>
<div>>>>Dan, I also have the Arai RX7-XX and could not recommend
it as a quiet helmet by any means. It is widely used by track/race teams
as it has excellent fit and ventilation but compared to the Quantum e or
the newer Shoei models it is very noisy! I would definitely try the other
Arai and Shoei models for comparison first. I dont think the RX7 is worth
the extra cash.<<<</div>
<br>
<div>Actually, I was thinking of getting the Read Historic Replica
RX7-XX. Noise is an issue with me. Are there any other about the
RX7-XX?</div>
<br>
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