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RE: Belly scrape
- Subject: RE: Belly scrape
- From: "Retherford, Martin" <MRetherford@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:07:23 -0700
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Update on more than just the belly panels. Just got all the panels and junk
in to replace the skin on Baby. I had the 12000 mile service done and there
were only two valves out of spec. Both were exhaust and one on #1 and one
on #3 cylinders
My belly panel has deformed. I have no scrapes of any kind on my belly
panels but it still melted. You guys smacking your panels should stiffen
your suspension so there is less travel hitting a bump in a turn.
My theory on deforming belly panels is that the glue adhering the foil to
the panel is breaking down under heat. It lifts since there is nothing to
hold it in place and the heat is transferred to the panel. This may be
worsened by washing the bike with the use of water. The water travels down
the inside of the panel and soaks the foil and then when you take it out for
the afternoon spin after you have washed it may steam the glue further
separating it from the panel.
The folks who are debating whether to remove the belly panels all together
have a problem in doing so. There are some steel braided lines down there I
believe for the oil cooler that are exposed by removing the panels. I would
not want to run through a splintered wood palette on the freeway like I did
two days ago, the wood could possibly take you out. oil everywhere
including your rear tire splitting lanes on a moderately moving freeway.
Anyway good luck guys. I am done.
Martin
Oh, here is my theory on belly scraping, melting etc. Triumph is caught in a
bit of a squeeze here. The belly pan scrapes where it bulges to accommodate
the exhaust system. It cannot bulge any more, because it will make scraping
even more prevalent. And they can't make it bulge any less, because then
they will melt the thing. I also was wondering, is it possible that the
melting belly pans are also those with the biggest scrapes. Could the
mounting system be tweaked by the pavement, causing it to end up even closer
to the pipe, hence more heat through direct contact, hence melting aluminum
(aluminium to you blokes) foil, leading to bubbling plastic? Any thoughts?
Oh, and one last thing on scraping parts in turns. Does it just mean we have
to hang our butts off the saddle a bit more, to keep the bike more upright
in turns. I confess I haven't tried that riding style yet, and a track day
would probably be a good way to try it.
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<DIV><SPAN class=590365415-01091999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Update
on more than just the belly panels. Just got all the panels and junk in to
replace the skin on Baby. I had the 12000 mile service done and there were
only two valves out of spec. Both were exhaust and one on #1 and one on #3
cylinders</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590365415-01091999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>My
belly panel has deformed. I have no scrapes of any kind on my belly panels
but it still melted. You guys smacking your panels should stiffen your
suspension so there is less travel hitting a bump in a turn.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590365415-01091999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>My
theory on deforming belly panels is that the glue adhering the foil to the panel
is breaking down under heat. It lifts since there is nothing to hold it in
place and the heat is transferred to the panel. This may be worsened by
washing the bike with the use of water. The water travels down the inside
of the panel and soaks the foil and then when you take it out for the afternoon
spin after you have washed it may steam the glue further separating it from the
panel.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590365415-01091999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>The
folks who are debating whether to remove the belly panels all together have a
problem in doing so. There are some steel braided lines down there I
believe for the oil cooler that are exposed by removing the panels. I
would not want to run through a splintered wood palette on the freeway like I
did two days ago, the wood could possibly take you out. oil everywhere
including your rear tire splitting lanes on a moderately moving
freeway.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590365415-01091999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Anyway
good luck guys. I am done.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=590365415-01091999><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Martin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Oh, here is my theory on belly scraping, melting etc.
Triumph is caught in a bit of a squeeze here. The belly pan scrapes where it
bulges to accommodate the exhaust system. It cannot bulge any more, because
it will make scraping even more prevalent. And they can't make it bulge any
less, because then they will melt the thing. I also was wondering, is it
possible that the melting belly pans are also those with the biggest
scrapes. Could the mounting system be tweaked by the pavement, causing it to
end up even closer to the pipe, hence more heat through direct contact,
hence melting aluminum (aluminium to you blokes) foil, leading to bubbling
plastic? Any thoughts?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Oh, and one last thing on scraping parts in turns. Does it
just mean we have to hang our butts off the saddle a bit more, to keep the
bike more upright in turns. I confess I haven't tried that riding style yet,
and a track day would probably be a good way to try it. </FONT></P>
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