[ST] Re: st-digest V2002 #443

[rmcclaran@xxxxxxx]

Actually this is the C clamp from your description. We had 
to bend the tabs to get it to fit at all. The clamp DOES 
fit tight around the pipe. From what I've heard they send 
a round clamp to oval pipe buyers which causes another 
slew of fitting problems.
I've tried rotating the link and believe it or not this is 
as good as we (my mechanic originally installed the can 
while doing some other work on the bike) could get it.
Too bad to hear about these complaints on Wolf now cause I 
couldn't find anythiing but positives in the ST archives 
prior to purchase. Oh well. FWIW I have been in contact 
with Wolf and they seem interested in helping me sort it 
out. And it is a nice looking and sounding pipe.
Cheers,
Robbie
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> > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:41:42 +0200
> > From: "Andy Cunningham" <andy.cunningham@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [ST] (RS) Wolf Can Fitting
> > 
> > Robbie,
> > 
> > As you've already heard I too have had trouble with the RS link pipe.  I'm
> > extremely happy with the silencer itself and for the money I think it is
> > extremely good value.  However the link pipe fitting clearly has not
> > received the same attention to detail.  Whilst it is well made with clean
> > bends etc. it simply doesn't fit the bike very well.  I also wasn't too
> > happy with the strap Wolf sent me for holding the can.  I found it extremely
> > difficult to make the strap fit tightly around the can, such that when I
> > actually had everything fitted in a position that I was happy with, there
> > was still some play in the "construction".  What this meant in practice was
> > that initially the link pipe would not be touching the swing arm, but during
> > the course of a weeks riding the two would gradually get closer together,
> > until the only thing I could fit between them was a very thin piece of
> > paper!
> > 
> > I also wasn't happy with the position of the can on the bike.  As a result
> > of the link pipe being quite long, before bending up to join the silencer,
> > the can sat quite a long way out from the side of the bike, especially when
> > viewed from behind.  I didn't really like this look and wanted the can to
> > sit nice and tight into the side of the bike.  As I said earlier I also
> > didn't like the strap.  I found it hard to form around the can and there
> > were lots of small gaps where dirt got trapped between the can and the strap
> > creating lots of small scratches.
> > 
> > So I went to my local bike accessories shop and started measuring all their
> > oval silencers for one that had the same dimensions as the Wolf.  I was
> > fortunate enough that they stocked GRP silencers from Italy that use a
> > lovely stainless steel oval clamp that forms itself to the exact shape of
> > the silencer when attached and tightened up.  I bought the clamp for about
> > £20 and when I got it home it fitted beautifully around the silencer with no
> > gaps and held the silencer firmly in place.  The new clamp also allowed me
> > to hang the can tight into the bike.  The problem now of course is that the
> > Wolf link pipe is completely the wrong length and shape.  I went to a local
> > car exhaust place and they made up a temporary link pipe for me, but it's
> > fairly heavy duty and doesn't look very nice as its designed to be
> > underneath a car and not seen.
> > 
> > I've now found an exhaust pipe specialist that does proper motorcycle link
> > pipes in stainless steel and have booked some time with them next month to
> > get a decent custom made link pipe prepared.  Once I've done this I'll post
> > some pictures and the dimensions etc.
> > 
> > Andy
> > _____________________________________________
> > Andy Cunningham
> > Sigtuna, Sweden
> > 955i Sprint RS (01)
> > - ---
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:09:59 -0700
> From: Matt Knowles <matt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ST] New file uploaded
> 
> You need more than a tiny bit of clearance. Remember that the shock 
> can extend as well as compress. Because of inertia, it can even 
> extend further than it would fully unloaded on a centerstand.
> 
> >The link pipe from the Wolf round titanium can is up against the RS 
> >swingarm. When the bike is loaded with a rider it no longer strikes 
> >the swingarm however I\'d be more comfortable with a tiny bit of 
> >clearance.
> 
> 
> - -- 
> Matt Knowles
> Aesthetic Design & Photography - www.aestheticdesign.com - (707) 786-4643
> 

> 
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 21:48:26 +0100
> From: "Howlin' Dawg" <howlindawg@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Re:[ST] (RS) Wolf Can Fitting
> 
> > Do all 
> > aftermarket pipes have these kinds of fitting problems?
> 
> No. This is just part of a long list of very dissatisfied Wolf customers.
> 
> Check out t595.net for tales of Wolf woe.
> 
> Pity, because their products look beautiful :o(
> 
> Howlin' Dawg
> 
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 23:23:29 +0100
> From: "Andrew Reynolds" <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [ST] New file uploaded
> 
> Robbie,
> 
> From this picture it looks like they have sent you what Wolf call the
> 'P' strap. I think they call the other one the 'C' strap. The difference
> is that the 'P' strap has the tabs offset to one side whereas the 'C'
> strap has them dead centre. I know this because when I was having
> trouble fitting mine using a 'C' strap I phoned them for advice and they
> sent me a 'P' strap to try instead. I wonder if they have started
> sending out 'P' straps as a result of my call. I never used it in the
> end.
> 
> It looks to me like your link pipe needs to be turned clockwise. This
> will bring the silencer nearer the bike and increase the gap between the
> link pipe and the swing arm. Also then the top of the silencer would be
> more directly below the hanger necessitating a 'C' strap. I would give
> Wolf a call; they should send you a 'C' strap for free. You could also
> send them an E mail with a close up photo of the mounting from behind so
> that they can see your issue.
> 
> It is not just Wolf that has these problems. I spent quite a while
> helping a friend get an Art silencer installed on her Fazer. It was just
> as tricky getting the silencer in the correct position.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Andrew

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