RE: [ST] HP Restrictions?

[peter.chittum@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Aside from the guys at my dealer who I trust, there are two sales people here in the SF Bay Area that I trust know their stuff. Both work for japanese dealers (One an all-japanese, the other a Honda/duc). However ask me about the service departments of either of these places and that is a completely different story. 

Peter Chittum
'01 BRG ST
San Jose, CA, USA 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-st@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-st@xxxxxxxxxx]On 
> Behalf Of STeve
> Duncan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:17 PM
> To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ST] HP Restrictions?
> 
> 
> 
> Just my 'humble' opinion, but I would say your Honda dude is 
> FOS, and trying 
> to make excuses for an outclassed liter bike (at least in the 
> HP wars), the 
> new ZX-10 may be the horse to beat this year and I would 
> hazard to guess it 
> is over the 150 hp mark.  Heck, Motorcyclist's "Hard Numbers" 
> shows the 
> "Rear Wheel" HP on the Zook GSXR-1000 to be 152hp.  The new 
> R-1 is 180hp 
> ????  I seriously doubt this claim.  Maybe at the crank, on a 
> really good 
> day, with a friendly tech doing the calculations :)))   All 
> Mfg HP numbers 
> are 'at the crank' and are usually 10-15% higher than actual 
> Rear Wheel 
> numbers.  One thing I do know, there is no "legal" 
> restriction on HP on 
> bikes coming into the US.  There is a gentlemans agreement 
> between the Mfg's 
> on limiting top speed to 186 mph.
> 
> On a side note.  Question to the masses:
> 
> How many of you have received, good, accurate information 
> from any sales 
> type at a dealership? (esp. one of the big four, Japanese guys)
> My experience is these guys don't know squat about bikes in 
> general or even 
> the bikes they are selling.  HP? Torque?? Mileage???  Even 
> fuel capacity, 
> they don't have a clue, unless they can find the info in the 
> brochure, if 
> they can even find the brochure.  And when pressed, I find 
> most of them 
> don't even freakin' RIDE a bike or have an MC license !!!!!  
> Unbelievable.
> 
> Another reason I prefer the Eurobike dealers, more informed staff and 
> usually someone who actually rides!!!
> 
> 
> Steve Duncan
> Tejas
> 
> 
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental 
> illness." ~Dave Barry
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> 
> >From: "Masiak, Richard" <Richard_Masiak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >Does anyone know if the US has a HP cap on sport bikes?  
> When I was at a
> >Honda dealer, discussing the up coming CBR1000RR I was told 
> it won't have
> >more than 150HP because of US regulations.
> >
> >Last night I was watching Two Wheel Tuesday, and the 2004 
> Yamaha R1 has 180
> >HP.
> >
> >Does anyone know the truth?
> 
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