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Re: [ST] Frustrated with Shock Selection for Sprint RS....any ideas/advice?
- Subject: Re: [ST] Frustrated with Shock Selection for Sprint RS....any ideas/advice?
- From: Bryce <bster13@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 09:02:57 -0800 (PST)
I totally understand not knowing what to do with all
the adjustability. This is what I'm trying to gauge
here. I do have basic suspension knowledge as in how
to set sag and if you feel X while riding do Y for the
most part but perhaps the Hyperpro spring would be a
start. I do have reservation regarding them using a
progressive spring, as all the top suspension tuners I
know use a straight rate. But, being that I'd be
using just a spring and not playing with the stock
compression of dampening, perhaps progressive spring
rate would be a good thing since I can't adjust
anything else, who really knows?
I placed a call into my trusty Race Tech guy, Kevin
and am awaiting his callback. Someone told me they
had their Triumph "nonrebuildable" shock rebuilt by
them, and yet when I called last night they said they
can't do that. So I need to get to the bottom of
this.
As for the kind of riding I do....1-2 track days a
year I plan with aggressive street riding, w/ touring
luggage from time to time and 1/4 of the time 2-up.
The level of adjustability would be nice just for the
sheer range of weight I put on the bike, a remote
preload adjustment would nice when switching from
two-up to solo. I'm not saying I'd notice a click's
difference on an Ohlins....but once I get the hang of
things I'd think I'd have setting A for solo and
setting B for two-up and leave it for the most part.
Bryce
- --- Rod Brown <rodneybrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Bryce,
> Call me a jerk or mybe I'm just naive, but I just
> wouldn't know what to do
> with 50 clicks of compression or rebound damping.
> I went through the
> suspension tuning on a Kawasaki Concours. Got RT's
> up front which made a
> world of differnce then figured I "had" to upgrade
> the rear. Now let me
> make this clear up front, comparing a Sprint to a
> Connie is like comparing a
> ballarina to an elephant in tights. Anyhow, I got a
> Progressive 420 shock,
> replaced the spring with a dual rate, and commenced
> to measure static sag.
> Got so frustrated that I finally just cranked the
> preload around until it
> felt good and threw away the ruler - said to hell
> with sag recommendations.
> Know what, wish I did did that right off the bat.
>
> Here's a recommendations sent in pure take it or
> trash it fashion (it won't
> hurt my feelings at all). First, truthfully
> evaluate what kind of riding
> you do AND your ability to tune a suspension. Do
> you need compression and
> rebound adjustment? Do you need an external
> reservoir? Do you need a $750
> to $1500 shock? You can try to respring the stock
> shock first. I just put
> on a Hyperpro spring and so far it feels great, but
> whatever company, it's
> an easy place to start. See how that feels. With
> Hyperpro, you can send
> it back if you don't like it. Next step would be a
> revalve. At least if
> you can find someone who can revalve the stock
> shock, most likely you have
> found the guy to rebuild it as well. If these all
> fail then it's time for a
> new shock. It looks like all the aftermarket
> shocks have pre-load screw
> collars. I hate those spanners too, but there just
> may not be any other
> alternative. Maybe another bike's shock may be the
> answer. Maybe a letter
> to Showa is in order. They make the stock shock and
> may have a rebuildable
> model to fit.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Rod
>
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