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Here's an interesting article for you.
http://www.geocities.com/rnseitz/Definition_of_IQ.html

There really is a wide range of IQ's out there in traffic. We can be the most defensive riders out there with the best gear and we'll still lose out to some jackass in a Buick.

Just some fuel for thought as to how careful we have to be. Here's an exerpt from the article that made me chuckle...

Until I wrote this up this afternoon, I had never stopped to think just what intellectual diversity awaits us at our local shopping centers. Half the people we meet in cars on the road have below-average intelligence, and 1 in 20 must be seriously retarded, with a mental age of 12 or below. Ouch! I think I'll ride my bike on back streets to the store.

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: It's the little things... (Steven Kohlscheen)
  2. Re: It's the little things... (Steven Kohlscheen)
  3. Breaking the chain (Jack Hays)
  4. Re: It's the little things... (Bil Swartz)
  5. Re: Breaking the chain (Bil Swartz)
  6. RE: Breaking the chain (Masiak, Richard)
  7. Re: Clutch life survey (drbrant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
  8. Re: Clutch life survey (JUSTIN SHREAVES)
  9. Fwd:$1 Million Bond Set In Fatal Motorcycle Crash
     (John Petrey, Jr.)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:51:07 -0500
From: "Steven Kohlscheen" <trumpst@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ST] It's the little things...
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<<
I put new EBC HH sintered pads as well. The increase
in braking power is amazing and I am happy to have
Race-Tech emulators, otherwise the front mudguard
would hit the fairing ;-) I've noticed a little
vibration under heavy braking but my trusted mechanic
told me that it would disappear with the rotors and
pads bedding in. Have you experienced the same ?


Jean Doublet

I put the new rotors on to get rid of a vibration, lol No, I haven't
noticed a vibration from the new ones. But that's not saying your mechanic
is wrong. I may not be using the brakes hard enough yet to cause it. I've
only really riden it to work twice, about 55-60 miles round trip. And it's
mostly interstate.


Steven "Dirty Dawg" Kohlscheen




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:53:34 -0500
From: "Steven Kohlscheen" <trumpst@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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<<
A dremel works great to grind/cut off the chain rivits.

I had an attack of the cheaps.  I probably should have just bucked up for
one at Wally world.  But I hate giving those people money.

<<
A can of beer in the hand is a great companion to a wrench in the other.

I thought of that.  But considered I may use the beer hand more than the
wrench hand and get less done :)

<<
What the H E double L were they thinking when they put the bottom screw of
the
front sprocket cover directly behind the shift linkage - what a b!tch to get
it
out.

That's one of the great Triumph mysteries.

<<
Cleaning the gunk/gorp/crap/whatever that stuff is off of the surfaces that
the
chain runs near is one nasty dirty job.


When you clean up the gunk/grop/crap/whatever that stuff is off of the floor
of
the shop, so a good job. left over cleaning material not properly cleaned up
is
slick as snot. It can cause a nice little ooops, follows by a few choice
four
letter words.

I forgot to mention that. The gorp was thick enough at the bottom of the
cover that there were deep grooves from where the chain was shaving off the
top of the pile. I ended up just scraping it out with a screwdriver. And
out of the little engine case recesses behind the sprocket.


<<
Wife may call you a grease monkey and marvel at how one's hands can change
color
when working with the surfaces near the chain - reminder to self wear gloves
or
something next time.

My fingernails are almost back to normal colour.  There's still some
imbedded grease/dirt/gorp at the edges of my fingernails.

<<
I enjoyed your tale Steve, thanks!

Thank you.  I liked your tips as well.


Steven "Dirty Dawg" Kohlscheen




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:17:01 -0500
From: Jack Hays <rude@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ST] Breaking the chain
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I keep seeing post on tools to grind, etc. the chain rivets off to break
the chain.
For years I've owned a very simple chain link tool that works like a charm
even though it looks none for the job.
A small steel block with a pin on one side that is tightened up and pushes
the pin link through. It cost about $5.00 and is placed on the chain, held
with a large crescent wrench, and the pin turned with a 13mm wrench or
socket. Never failed me in twenty years of racing bikes and numerous
chains. True, you have to use it twice, once on each pin of the link, but
it always works, is clean, and cheap.
Does nobody use these but me? Why grind?


Jack Hays 972-952-5065 "I'll see you on the dark side of the Moon" Que Lastima



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:56:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bil Swartz <bil@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ST] It's the little things...
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Steven Kohlscheen wrote:

-I forgot to mention that. The gorp was thick enough at the bottom of the
-cover that there were deep grooves from where the chain was shaving off the
-top of the pile. I ended up just scraping it out with a screwdriver. And
-out of the little engine case recesses behind the sprocket.


No no no, that's your built in chain lubrication system!  ;^{D

-My fingernails are almost back to normal colour.  There's still some
-imbedded grease/dirt/gorp at the edges of my fingernails.

Fast Orange Hand Cleaner, with the built in fingernail brush. It Just Works
(tm-Apple).


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:57:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bil Swartz <bil@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ST] Breaking the chain
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005, Jack Hays wrote:

-Does nobody use these but me? Why grind?

It's lots easier to push a 530 pin after grinding it's head off, lots
easier.  I have a bent Motion Pro pin to prove it.

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:59:43 -0400
From: "Masiak, Richard" <Richard_Masiak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [ST] Breaking the chain
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You're correct. The chain tool usually comes with a pin press. However, IMO, it's a real pain because the 530 chain requires some muscle to force the riveted pin out. Taking into account the awkward position one may be in, i.e. lying on the ground, it's much easier to dremel the head off the riveted end before using the tool to push the pin out.

Now if I had the bike up at head level, where I could stand and do it that would be a different story.

Rich

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I keep seeing post on tools to grind, etc. the chain rivets off to break the chain. For years I've owned a very simple chain link tool that works like a charm even though it looks none for the job. A small steel block with a pin on one side that is tightened up and pushes the pin link through. It cost about $5.00 and is placed on the chain, held with a large crescent wrench, and the pin turned with a 13mm wrench or socket. Never failed me in twenty years of racing bikes and numerous chains. True, you have to use it twice, once on each pin of the link, but it always works, is clean, and cheap. Does nobody use these but me? Why grind?


Jack Hays 972-952-5065 "I'll see you on the dark side of the Moon" Que Lastima

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:47:49 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: drbrant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ST] Clutch life survey
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I can't really speak to the Sprintas mine only has 18,000 miles but my VFR has 98,900 and my Goldwing has 89,100 miles and they both have original clutches. I have never known anyone to replace a clutch in less the 60,000 miles that did not abuse it. By that I mean wheelies, drag racing etc.

Rick
00 sprint
95 VFR
89 GL1500

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Subject: [ST] Clutch life survey

How long (miles) does the Sprint clutch lasted?
I have 67k miles and so far so good.

David W. Funk
'00 Sprint ST
Pleasanton, CA
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 10:33:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: JUSTIN SHREAVES <wyckoffjustin@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ST] Clutch life survey
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I have 37k on my 00 ST, and I abuse the hell out of it. I just did a motorswap, due to transmission failure, and the clutches looked like they had about 75% left to them. I do alot of hard launches, and a couple wheelies here and there. So, clutches are usually real good. Jap bikes, or high reving bikes, I could see burning them up alot quicker, but for touring/low rpm bikes they should last nearly forever.

drbrant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:I can't really speak to the Sprintas mine only has 18,000 miles but my VFR has 98,900 and my Goldwing has 89,100 miles and they both have original clutches. I have never known anyone to replace a clutch in less the 60,000 miles that did not abuse it. By that I mean wheelies, drag racing etc.

Rick
00 sprint
95 VFR
89 GL1500

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Subject: [ST] Clutch life survey

How long (miles) does the Sprint clutch lasted?
I have 67k miles and so far so good.

David W. Funk
'00 Sprint ST
Pleasanton, CA
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:23:06 -0500
From: "John Petrey, Jr." <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ST] Fwd:$1 Million Bond Set In Fatal Motorcycle Crash
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ST/RS related? No. But on topic just the same...

$1 Million Bond Set In Fatal Motorcycle Crash
South Dakota Driver Faces Charges In Death Of Colorado Man

POSTED: 9:15 am MDT August 9, 2005

Bond was set at $1 million Monday for a South Dakota man accused of
driving under the influence and slamming into two Colorado motorcyclists,
killing one of them.

Garold Lee Fowler, 46, of Hill City, S.D., protested the high bond Monday,
saying he was a life-long resident of the area and has a wife and six
children.

Magistrate Judge Shawn Pahkle said, "Sir, you're alleged to have killed
someone," and said she considered his previous criminal record before
setting the bond. If Fowler is found guilty, it would be his sixth
lifetime DUI conviction, according to the Rapid City Journal. It would be
his third DUI charge in the last 10 years, prosecutors said.

Authorities said Fowler was driving a Chevrolet S-10 pickup on Aug. 3 and
rear-ended a Harley-Davidson motorcycle that was stopped to make a left
turn between Keystone and Hill City in the Black Hills.

The motorcycle's driver, James Byron Cain, 53, of Englewood, Colo., was
killed in the accident. His wife, Judith Buch-Cain, 45, was injured and
treated at a Rapid City hospital before being discharged the next day.
Both were wearing helmets at the time of the crash, police said.

Fowler is charged with vehicular homicide, vehicular battery and felony
driving under the influence.

The Englewood couple was heading to the Sturgis motorcycle rally at the
time of the accident. The rally started Monday in Sturgis, S.D., about 50
miles north of the accident site.





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