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Re: [ST] carbon silencer, tires and other maintenance issues



Pete,
It was real tough decision buying it because I suspected if I waited it might be taken, and the seller sounded like he took great care of it. I suspect from what he told me that because the Windsor dealer went out of business soon after he got the bike that he just had time to take it to London to have the recall work done. Triumph still has to pay for the work, so I won't be out of pocket. I'm glad I found out the work needed to be done and hopefully the dealer won't find any surprises. I"m sure the bike will sound better after I get it serviced. Since what I'm hearing is the Triumph pipe isn't too loud I'll keep it on for now. I do like the sound of it. I like the feel of the BT014's so far. It will be interesting to see how much wear I get.


Given you were looking for a new Triumph with low kms did you see the one that appeared a couple weeks ago on autotrader. It was blue as well with less than 5000kms and looked to be mint. IT was in Kingston. They guy was selling it for $7900 with a joe rocket suit. The ad was only on the site for a week so I think it got snapped up pretty quick.

If you are going to be around Peterborough sometime drop by and we can go for a ride.

Jim


From: "Peter Kroeker" <peter.kroeker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [ST] carbon silencer, tires and other maintenance issues
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:48:32 -0400

I was looking to buy that bike but waited too long. I have a 2000 Sapphire Blue ST which has over 46,000 km on it and I was looking for one with lower mileage. I love the bike and there's nothing wrong with mine but I thought I'd picking one up with less mileage would be good in the long run.

Mine has the carbon silencer and I just put the BT-014's on it this year. They have about 3500 km on them so far and they seem to be wearing reasonably well. I can't complain about the grip with the softer compound.

By the way, I live in Erin, Ontario which is about an hour northwest of Toronto.

Pete
----- Original Message ----- From: "joe smith" <ottawa1966@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [ST] carbon silencer, tires and other maintenance issues


Hi,
Yes it was!

Jim


From: "Peter Kroeker" <peter.kroeker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ST] carbon silencer, tires and other maintenance issues
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:05:50 -0400

Was that the one for sale in Windsor?

Pete
----- Original Message ----- From: "joe smith" <ottawa1966@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <st@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:23 PM
Subject: [ST] carbon silencer, tires and other maintenance issues


Hi,
I bought a 2002 blue ST a month ago. I paid a bit of a premium for it because I love the blue colour, only had 6500 KMs on it, and was showroom condition according to the seller. Finding a good Triumph ST up here is difficult because not too many are sold in Canada. Being 5 hours away from the seller I bought the bike based on pics and video he sent me. He also agreed to bring it to me on the back of a truck if I paid his gas. I had to send him a $500 deposit that I'd lose if I didn't accept the delivery. When he got it safetied the Bridgestone Battle Axe tires needed replacing. He suggested I get the new BT014's because even though I'd be touring he thought it better to have slightly softer tires, so I trusted his judgement and he had a set put on (at my cost). I phoned the nearest Triumph dealer 3 hours away to see if I was paying way too much. They thought if the bike was in as good condition as the seller said I wasn't paying that much of a premium. They were surprised that the seller recommended the soft Bridgestones. They said I won't get much wear out of them and that the Bridgestones were all wrong for the Sprint. My question is should I have gone for a harder, touring tire to get more mileage, or was the advice for softer compound to get better grip wise? In the end it is a matter of personal taste?



The dealer I talked to also suggested I make sure that the Triumph carbon silencer was put on by a dealer and the engine tuned. I specifically asked the seller and he said for sure that was done, but he had no maintenance records.


Anyway, he delivered the bike on a rainy Sunday and of course it looked at first glance to be as clean as he said. After I took delivery I noticed some minor scratches and the plastic edge of one of the front indicator light lenses seemed to have minor damage, so the bike wasn't in what I would count as showroom condition. Granted I'm the type that can walk through a new car lot and notice imperfections in paint jobs, so I wasn't taht upset that the bike was not scratch free as the seller said, but I was a bit miffed.

I rode it for a while and fell in love with the bike. I decided to take it to the dealer for an oil change since it was a nice sunny day and excuse to go for a ride. The seller told me the oil had been changed at the beginning of the season, but the dealer was shocked how dirty the oil came out. Plus, they had a terrible time getting the non-triumph aftermatket oil filter off the bike. Luckily they checked their records and saw that the original owner never brought the bike in for any of the recalls. At this point I'm wondering if the seller was more interested in washing and waxing his bike rather than having the mechanics looked after. I couldn't believe he'd never had the recall work done. I doubted if he did in fact have the pipe installed right. He told me he took it to a dealer in London, Ontario. I phoned them and they had no record of doing work on the bike. My question is if the idiot (seller) did buy the pipe and just slap in on himself is there anyway I could tell just from normal riding, or is there a chance the engine has had some damage done to it if the tuning for the silencer was never properly done? I'm bringing the bike down to Kingston later this week to have the works done. They ordered the parts for the recall work. I also want the fluids replaced, valve job, coolant flushed, hoses checked, etc. The seller gave me the factory pipe. I've been wondering if I should have them put it back on the bike because I've been told that even with ear plugs driving a bike with loud pipes will cause long term damage. I noticed the carbon pipe says it is not for street use. This is the first bike I've had without the factory installed piple so I don't have anything to compare it with. I haven't heard an ST with the factory pipe to compare. How would those who have ridden with after-market exhausts compare the Triumph carbon silencer in noise level. Do you think I'd be best to have the factory pipe put back on? I love the sound of the carbon silencer, but I don't want to go deaf in the long run?

I love the bike and hope the dealer doesn't find any surprises when he does the major maintenance later this week. I don't think that I'd buy a bike again without seeing it in person. Even the best pictures can't reveal minor defects. Plus, I'd want to see maintenance records. I'm making sure to keep any copies of work I do in case I sell it in future.

Thanks,
Jim

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