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Re: [ST] RE : Junk helmets, was Helmet Recommendation



Totally agree....but (as you point out) a more expensive helmet does NOT
make it safer only more comfortable/better after sales server/a better
fit/whatever.

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emallett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:36 AM
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Subject: [ST] RE : Junk helmets, was Helmet Recommendation


Marc is right. It is important to remember that MEETING the minimum
standard is not the same as EXCEEDING that standard. Pricing is another
discussion altogether. 

Ed Mallett
Tillamook, OR


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>From : Marc Van Est[mailto:MarcVE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent : 8/8/2006 12:06:08 AM
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Cc : 
Subject : RE : [ST] Junk helmets, was Helmet Recommendation

I have to throw in my two cents:
>
> A good friend had a low speed off last year.
>
>She was wearing a "budget" helmet, quite a well known brand but not an 
>Arai/ Shoei/ HJC/ Shark etc. I wont mention which one, but if someone 
>wants to know ping me off line.
>
>The helmet split when her head hit the ground, resulting in injuries to 
>her jaw and severe concussion.
>
>We looked at the helmet, and could only conclude is was just not well 
>manufactured. There's no way it should have split for the type of 
>impact.
>
>I think there is more to ....$10 head... Than we give credit. Buy a 
>premium helmet and there is just that much more chance that the quality 
>control is better.
>
>
>Cheers
>
>
>Marc,
>
>
>Cape Town
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: st-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:st-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Emile Nossin
>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:50 AM
>To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ST] Helmet Recommendations for Headset
>
>>From: Kevin.Dicks@xxxxxxx
>>Once a helmet has passed all the applicable tests, any extra expense 
>>is
>
>>only paying for comfort/fit/service etc. - you pay extra not for more
>>protection, but for other factors.
>
>Well, you'd think so. But an extensive test I have here of 10 flip-up 
>helmets suggests otherwise. They tested every aspect of the helmet, 
>including crash tests. Some helmets did do better than others, the 
>cheapest usually doing worse than the more expensive ones. The worst 
>was the Vemar helmet, that appeaered to have significant weak spots 
>with multiple bump tests. Also the chin section on that helmet only 
>closes after a lot of effort and there's even a risc that parts of the 
>construction bend or break.
>
>The best (in terms of safety, rated "good") helmets were the Schuberth 
>C2 and Shoei Synchrotec II (Caberg Justissimo 3rd in safety, middle of 
>the pack in total score, BMW (= Schuberth) helmet performed bad when 
>testing the damping of the chin section, but BMW said it was a 
>production error which is now solved). Worst helmets were the HJC 
>CL-MAX, Nolan N102, MTR K10 and Vemar VXD Dual Evo (rated good, good, 
>sufficient and the last one barely sufficient).
>
>So there is a difference in safety and it seems that it usually (in 
>this case at least, except for the BMW production error) also 
>correlated with price.
>
>If someone wants to see the total results table of these 10 helmets 
>(test in Dutch again, sorry), let me know.
>
>Emile
>www.piloot.com
>
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