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Re: [ST] Supercharge vs Turbo
- Subject: Re: [ST] Supercharge vs Turbo
- From: Paul English <tallpaul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 11:21:41 -0800 (PST)
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Jim HIGGINS wrote:
> Properly sized turbo has no added back pressure,turbo is sized according to
> intended use,street,drag racing,ralley,etc.So a good turbo system matched to
> your engine use,compression,etc. will work seamlessly.Look at the
> Mitsuibishi Eclipse,Rallye,Subaru WRX's etc.The added heat comes from
> compressing the incoming charge and is overcome with intercoolers/charge
> coolers.Jim.
No offense, but this is counter to the laws of physics. If it is doing
work, then it requires energy. It either must get that energy from the
heat of the exhaust or from the motion of it. If it is getting it from the
motion, then it resisting that motion aka back pressure.
It is clearly not getting energy from heat so it must be producing back
pressure.
More accurately said, maybe is that a well designed turbo adds little to
no back pressure over a stock or poorly designed exhaust pipe, because
just having a pipe and muffler on the exhaust adds some back pressure.
Usually it is a bit of a tradeoff that works out to be a net gain...at
certain speeds. So.. you loose a bit of power to the increased back
pressure, but you gain a lot of power because of all the extra air - a net
increase. It doesn't work at all speeds though, unless the turbo is able
to adjust its back pressure across the whole range.
Turbos are a big win on things like ships or airplanes where the engine
will be cruising for hours at a near fixed rpm. Then the turbo can be
precisely tuned for that rpm and it doesn't much matter if it is a bit of
a loss the rest of the time.
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