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Re: [ST] '00 RS Running Rough - Resolved



I have an old shop manual ('99/'00 Sprint), but it is shown there so I have 
no reason to doubt that it would be in the newer manual

The coolant temp sensor is shown on the electrical schematic, and it's 
location is shown in the Cylinder Head section

HTH,
Neil


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Kimick" <kkimick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <st@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ST] '00 RS Running Rough - Resolved


>I can't find any coolant temp sensor in my service manual for 2002-2004
> Sprint ST/RS.
>
> Kevin
>
> Don Cummings wrote:
>>  Just wanted to share my experience.  After a new tune and CO reset, my
>> bike had stopped stalling, but was still running a bit rough, stumbling
>> at constant/light throttle.
>>
>> Turned out the coolant temp sensor was bad.  My guess is it was reading
>> cold all the time, making the engine run rich, which was why at wide
>> open throttle, the bike went great, but when hot, at constant light
>> throttle, it was loading up on fuel and causing a bit of
>> popping/stuttering.
>>
>> Now the bike runs great!
>>
>> BTW, there was no code stored for the faulty sensor.
>>
>> Don
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan West [mailto:triumphnutter@xxxxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:44 PM
>> To: st@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ST] st Digest, Vol 17, Issue 34
>>
>> Hi Don,
>> Go back to the dealer and have them do 3 things if they haven't already.
>> 1)Reset the IAC valve.
>> 2)Reset the closed throttle position.
>> 3)Set the CO (not the CO2) to 3%-4%.
>> They should have done all this if they updated your tune, but a lot of
>> them don't.  Great Bay has an excellent reputation, but just make sure
>> they did all that.  All these things must be done with the Game Boy and
>> a gas analyzer.  If they don't have a gas analyzer, find another dealer
>> that does.
>>
>> If it still does it, check the 3 corrugated vacuum lines that are
>> attached to the IAC valve (otherwises known as the stepper motor) for
>> leaks.  They were notorious for cracking.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Jonathan West
>> 95 Trophy 4
>> 96 Super III
>> 97 Trophy 900
>> 99 ST
>> 01 Daytona 955i
>> 03 Speed 4
>>
>> From: "Don Cummings" <dcummings@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [ST] '00 Sprint RS running rough, service issues
>>
>>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>> My Sprint RS started to run rough, occasional stalling when idling and
>> seemed to be "lurching" a bit when at slow role on of throttle or at
>> constant throttle.....like the engine wanted to go, but then would pull
>> back and go again.
>>
>> I brought it to Great Bay in Hampton.  I told them what was going on.
>> All they ended up doing was a CO2 check and downloaded a new tune.
>>
>> The stalling is gone, but it starts hard when cold and still
>> "burbles/stumbles" when in traffic accelerating moderately or at
>> constant throttle, especially noticeable in first or second gear.
>>
>> I also seem to notice a fuel smell, which makes me wonder if the bike is
>> running rich.  Almost as if the choke is stuck open on a carbureted
>> bike.
>>
>> So I'm bringing it back in today.  The bike has new plugs and had a full
>> service/valves done 5k miles ago. I've also run several bottles of
>> Techron through and cleaned the throttle body.
>>
>> My guess is that either ignition timing is off, or some kind of sensor
>> is out of calibration/going bad, possibly making the bike run rich.  In
>> cars with mass air flow sensors, I've seen them go bad without throwing
>> an engine code while giving the car symptoms as if the fuel pump were
>> going bad.
>>
>> Any suggestions on what I should make sure Great Bay does?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
>>
>>
>>
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