[St] 10w-40 oil, was Canuck Oil Change Follow-up

[John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey Now,

Where does it say in the manual to use 10w-40? And
where does it ever say anything about using non
synthetic? What year is your bike? Mine is an '02 RS,
and I have NEVER found any information other than "you
must run 15w-50 synthetic, or your engine will die,
your wife will leave you , hell will freeze over,
etc,etc..."

:-)

Now I am really curious...

John
--- Brian Pitman <snowsurfer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi guys!
>  
> Well, after all the follow-on commentaries, I feel
> obligated to wrap up my not-so-short story from
> earlier today.
>  
> Denis, you are quite right about fairing pieces - no
> disassembly required!  
> On my current ride of the last 15 yrs (Yamaha GTS),
> one must remove the lower two fairing pieces to
> access the oil filter and drain plug.  
> Old habits die hard.  However, like I said, it was a
> good learning experience for the next time I ever
> have to pull the fairing apart although it will NOT
> be for the next oil change :-) ...
>  
> Yes, I do apply a dab of oil on the O ring.  I
> should also take up your trick of putting some oil
> in the filter as well before screwing it on.
> I rerad the owner's manual again to see how to
> "operate" the dipstick (I too, am a big fan of sight
> glasses). Of the few dipsticks I have come to know
> (now there is a good line if I ever heard one!), all
> are placed in the engine case without screwing it
> in.  Not so on this ST, sigh...  I must've screwed
> that little sucker in and out half a dozen times. 
> However, the oil is now exactly at the top of the
> hash mark after dumping in about three litres of 
> fresh oil. 
>  
> Thanks to those who noted that 4L is the specified
> volume and that 3.2L is what works!!!  I will check
> my oil level again after my next ride.
> In great frustration I read my manual several times
> again.  Under all the sections that mention engine
> oil, it consistently repeats that 10W40 (or 15-50
> synthetic) is the type of oil to be used, but
> NOWHERE is the volume specified!!!  I thought for
> sure the spec chart in the final pages would have
> this crucial info.  2.4L of coolant, 21L of fuel,
> spark plug gap and torque figures for the major nuts
> and bolts.  No oil capacity.
>  
> Neil, I had the same thought as you - to just
> compensate for the difference that the height of the
> threads but the hash marks are located at the very
> end of the dipstick and the threads are at least as
> tall as the min/max marks of the hash area, so you
> would only see oil when the oil is at the max level.
>  Now here is a great opportunity for an aftermarket
> manufacturer - to make a longer dipstick that does
> not have to be screwed in to check the oil level!!!
>  
> Back to oil capacity... I even pushed the ST out of
> my garage into the sunshine to have a good look at
> the cases.  After a 30 yr diet of Japanese
> motorcycles that all had the oil capacity
> permanently marked next to the filler cap, I was
> very surprised to see that Triumph has not adopted
> this standard...  I guess after a half century I am
> finally turning into a curmudgeon...
>  
> Anyhow, thanks again to all the good advice you guys
> passed on. 
> Next time an oil change will only take me 30 mins
> instead of two days!
>  
> Brian
> GWN
> 
> PS Karl - once I get the motor fully broken, I will
> work at draggin' the pegs on my way to Halifax, NS. 
> In two weeks time I will be on the road to catch the
> Cdn SBK races at Shubenacadie where I used to flog a
> two-stoke RD350LC many moons ago.  I will be riding
> with a long time friend (also a GTS owner) who will
> be on his FJR1300.  I am definately looking forward
> to getting into the back roads of Maine!
>  
> PPS John, How is the "Black ST" hunt going?  and how
> many days left on the bank guarantee?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Denis Liakos denoose@xxxxxxx
> 
> 
>   My first question would be why you'd remove any
> body work from your ST, as 
> the drain plug, a 13mm head,  is on the bottom of
> the sump!  And what "oil 
> cap" are you referring to?  With the bike on the
> center stand, my  method 
> with a warm motor is to remove/ drain/ toss the old
> filter, and replace the 
> filter with a partially filled (with fresh oil) new
> filter- don't forget to 
> put a dab of oil on the O ring, remove the oil drain
> plug, contemplate the 
> sky and trees for a bit of time, replace the drain
> plug, check the washer 
> while doing so, and administer roughly 3.2 litres of
> Triumph's synthetic. 
> I've been using Triumph's filters and oil on all of
> my bikes since my first 
> Hinckley in '96...I then run the bike for a minute,
> clean up all tools, 
> rags, etc. and then check the oil level, looking for
> the midway point on the 
> dipstick....miss my '01's sight glass....YMMV,
> etc...
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