Re: [ST] Calling on the collective wisdom of the list...

[simonb@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Quoting Jeremy Witt <Jeremy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Could be an air breather problem in the tank.

> I had similar symptoms on my 88 Honda Hawk GT a few years ago.  Turned out
> to be a fuel pump that was pushing about 25% of the volume of fuel it was
> meant to.  The bike ran for a while, then died.  Got trailered home and
> started right up.  Ran for a few days, then died again.  Repeat a third
> time.
>
> J
>
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> From: st-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of John Ulizzi
> Sent: Sun 3/25/2007 5:19 PM
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> Subject: [ST] Calling on the collective wisdom of the list...
>
>
>
> Howdy folks, I need some help...
>
> I am out in Arizona visiting my mother, trying to get
> the bugs out of my '85 Shadow 1100 that I left out
> here last year. I put it up for storage correctly,
> running stabilizer through the fuel system and then
> draining the carbs. Initially, it was hard to start,
> as though it was not getting fuel. Once it fired, it
> ran fine. Went for a ride. Bike rolls to a stop after
> about 50 miles as though it had run out of gas. Fiddle
> with the fuel system, check pump for flow, etc, all
> good. Start her up and ride 20 miles home without
> further incident, but bike not running perfectly,
> missing a bit on idle. Check fuel cut relay, output
> voltage way down from where it shoud be. Find another
> used relay, same voltage. Go out for another ride.
> Bike quits again, but after 25 miles...for a good half
> hour or so, the bike runs perfectly. Here is where it
> gets weird...After it quits, it will not start right
> away. Wait a bit, bike fires up, runs rough. Run for
> half a mile or so, stalls again. Coast ( this bike
> will coast forever, thak God) for a few minutes, fire
> up and run rough again. I limped home this way,
> running under power for several hundred yards and then
> coasting for several hundred yards, for 20 miles
> yesterday...I am at my wits end here, dunno if it's a
> fuel issue or a spark issue, and the troubleshooting
> guide in the factory service manual is about as useful
> as tits on a bull. Its not a vapor lock in the tank, I
> ran the bike with the tank cover open.It is also not
> the charging system. As many times as I had to crank
> it to get it started, if the charging system was
> faulty, surely I would have ran the battery down. The
> fuel pump, when the line is disconnected from the
> carbs, emits a stream that would make even a young man
> envious, so I am guessing it is not the pump...Who
> knows about the relay. Voltage is off of what the
> manual says it should be, but both relays are within a
> fraction of each other...
>
> Looking for a couple things here:
>
> 1) Any advice that might help me troubleshoot and
> localise the problem.
>
> or
>
> 2) Any advice on a reputable and reliable service shop
> in the Phoenix area, preferably on the north west
> side.
>
> or
>
> 3) The name of an active local list her in Phoenix in
> the absence of the first two above.
>
> Any info appreciated...
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
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