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Re: [St] Open up - Roof Boxer Review



The AC-12 has a cavity where the straps pass through the liner foam to attac=
h to the shell. I ended up stuffing soft foam rubber blocks in there and it=
 helped a lot. It is REALLY sensitive to head position: Head up like a trail=
ie or even high bars on the ST and it's so quiet you can actually hear the t=
ires on the pavement and the chain singing at 80 mph. Head down like a Dayto=
na or tucked in on my '06 ST and there is a bad roar off of my shoulders or=
 from my neck or something. 
I use plugs and it helps a lot. I love the light weight, the carbon looks co=
ol, and the aerodynamics are great...much less neck strain than the Sy-Max,=
 especially in cross winds, in traffic, or looking around.

Mike 
'06 ST
'06 Yam Vino
Seattle
=A0


-----Original Message-----
From: st-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:st-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=
m] On Behalf Of Mike Coleman
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:36 PM
To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [St] Open up - Roof Boxer Review

Interesting thread as i was just looking at helmets today. I have a Symax
(it's acually the Harley-Davidson version that I bought when I had my
bagger, but I wear it on my Triumph just be a little different). And, it's a
noisy sucker.

Did you find the AC-12 to be significantly less noisy? I'm thinking of a
shoei Z-11 as well, anyone ride w/ one of those (or is it an X-11)?

Mike


On 9/18/07, Young, Mike <myoung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >From experience: The HJC Symax chin guard works. The visor mount broke on
> on=3D
> e side, deep gouges all the way around the lid...chin bar and all. I
> didn't=3D
> hit real hard, but I did slide far enough on my face to scrape hell out
> of=3D
> the visor. The chin bar latch system held, and was still functional.
> Net result: I bought another one. I recently switched to a standard full
> fac=3D
> e (HJC Carbon AC-12) for noise reasons, but I still use the Sy-max on the
> sc=3D
> ooter and for Trumpeting around town.
>
> Mike
> '06 ST
> '06 Yam Vino (now don't start in on me! I bought it for her, but it works
> gr=3D
> eat in for getting beer, and the first tank went 87 mpg)
> Seattle
> =3DA0
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: st-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> st-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D
> m] On Behalf Of Eoin Kirwan
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 3:12 PM
> To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [St] Open up - Roof Boxer Review
>
> On Monday 17 September 2007 21:06, Brian Pitman wrote:
> >
> > The one unknown I will concede in my comments is that I am not familiar
> > with the Euro ECE 22-05 test standards, however, I am guessing that
> there
> > is no specific test for a flip-up helmet in the pivot area.  Someone
> pleas=3D
> e
> > correct me if I have guessed wrong...
>
>
> AFAIK, for the Euro test all flip-up lids are treated as open-face, in
> other=3D
>
> words the chin bar tests aren't performed. Just how much protection in
> that=3D
>
> area you can expect from a flip is debateable.
>
> Also if there was an issue with lack of padding in the hinge area, I doubt
> i=3D
> t
> would pass the ECE test - but that could depend on the exact places the
> test=3D
>
> impacts are done... I would expect the hinges to be attached to the
> outside=3D
> of
> the shell so there should be no effect on the padding?
>
>
> Eoin
>
> '04 955i
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