RE: Bolts and other stuff

["Retherford, Martin" <MRetherford@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well the gauge is confirmed to never be linear in its operation.  You will
always see a full tank and then it will drop quickly to empty, but it won't
freak out and go all over the place.  Moral of the story is that you should
use your trip meter as well for insurance against running out of fuel
(petrol for the Europeans).  Anybody ran a ST dry?
If so, what did it take to get it back to normal?
	My dealer is still bucking me on complete replacement of the bolts
vs. just removing the bolts and re-torqueing, or whatever it is they are
proposing.  

Ross, can you give some clarification on the subject?

No pressure intended here for a response.  I ask so I can determine how hard
I should push on these guys for replacement instead of a re-torque.

Martin 

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Eric Sheley [mailto:eric@xxxxxxxxxx]
		Sent:	Monday, April 12, 1999 8:13 AM
		To:	ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
		Subject:	Re: Bolts and other stuff

		At 12:26 AM 04/12/1999 -0700, Martin wrote:
		>	Just got the fix for the fuel gauge Saturday and
filled up as well.
		>The jumped right up there very good sign!

		Cool - sounds like you have one that works now. Did the
gauge show gas
		usage immediately or does it still take 100 miles for it to
start going down?

		>	I also talked to the mech. (Mikey from orange county
triumph) about
		>the bolts he said not every bike will require a new bolt
set.  Any different
		>info out there?

		From Triumph US 
		"Following the Service Bulletin, all affected models must
have these bolts
		replaced"

		From Ross Clifford
		"A recall has now been issued between the Vin No.s 076,793 -
084,542 (Last 6 
		digits of your chassis No.), to have the bolts replaced with
the correct 
		specification, not all bikes will be affected in this range
and the majority 
		of bikes will be fine."

		While Mikey is an incredibly talented mechanic,  I think he
is incorrect on
		this one. While not every bike will have a problem Triumph
went to great
		lengths to determine when the problem started and when it
ended with
		respect to VIN numbers. Both sources above (and several
others I haven't
		quoted)  have stated that all bolts in the VIN range are to
be replaced. Is
		mikey saying that he can see the difference between the good
and problem
		bolts and therefore he doesn't have to change them? It is
obvious to me
		(through my own experience) that the problem can occur at
any time without
		warning. I wouldn't want to be zipping around the California
hillsides and
		find myself with oil all over the rear tire ......

		Even if Triumph came out and said "only replace those bikes
that have a
		problem", would you really forego the change and then spend
every ride
		wondering if you were about to have a problem ?

		Let me know how this progresses.......

		>	At 45XX miles already and have squared off the back
pretty good.
		>Talked to the guys at my dealer and they are pushing the
Dunlop 205 as the
		>replacement.  According to them they are getting about 10k
out of them on
		>the Trophys.  Any opinions?

		I've heard the same, but have not used them myself. I
averaged about 7k
		(rear) on the Bridgestones on my previous Sprint and look
like these will
		wear the same. On the old Sprint, I moved to the Metzler
MEz4's and while
		very impressed with the performance, I chewed through them
in about 6k
		miles (they are supposed to be a longer wear tire).

		>	I am also in the market for a throttle lock for my
baby and am not
		>liking the $100+ for the throttlemiester.  My buddy has a
$12 version that
		>somehow pinches the throttle.  Anybody know a manufacturer
and possibly a
		>vendor/dealer in the greater Los Angeles area?

		There are several cheap throttle locks on the market. I
tried several on
		the 509, before just giving up - they either required
drilling holes or had
		flimsy plastic that would break after 1000 miles of use. Add
up a few of
		those and you've got the price of the Throttlemeister .....
plus the poser
		value on the throttlemeister is much higher ;-) 

		>bucks.  Also who ever purchased their manual for $85, ouch!
I got mine for
		>$55 yesterday.  You should give them a little hell over
that one.

		You got lucky as they charged you the price for the T5
service manual - the
		ST manual for some reason while it is the same size as the
T5, is
		considerably more expensive on dealer cost - they took a
loss selling it to
		you at that price.

		- Eric

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