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Re: brake lever excessive travel

Hello All,
While we are on the subject of brakes(mine is similar but not that drastic), 
  I have a '00 model with 2600 miles on it.  I was wondering how long the 
stock pads usually last.  I know it depends on how hard you use them, so 
please use extreme examples.  What is also a good/the best pad for 
replacement.  When I first got it it seemed as though you just look at the 
brake lever and BAM! they were on.  Now it takes a little more pull to get 
them there.  Don't get me wrong though, it still stops on a dime.  I don't 
know maybe I just read this and got paranoid.

Thanks,
Brian

>From: "Gregory D. Girard" <ggirard@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: brake lever excessive travel
>Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 05:52:50 -0400
>
>This sounds like a defect somewhere. I had this issue with BMW and
>practically had to take legal action. My advise is to go the the shop and
>find a floor model with good brakes that meets your standards. This is not 
>a
>problem do to the fact that the level travel is fine on this bike normally.
>Tell the service manager/owner that you insist that your brakes work like
>those fine examples and that you will be willing to pay for replacement
>parts that have worn (new pads, fluids), but as far as you are concerned,
>your brakes are clearly (by direct comparison) out of spec with a new bike
>on his showroom floor. If he says the 2000 has better brakes (it should not
>be different) then demand an upgrade (politely) from Triumph. He and 
>Triumph
>would have to otherwise claim that (1) your 1999 brakes were designed to
>work differently (inadequate lever travel) than the perfect 1999/2000 floor
>model or (2) they would have to make the statement that the ST brakes
>degrade in normal usage, even if new fluid and pads are used. Both 
>arguments
>(1) and (2) are entirely indefensible from a legal or business standpoint -
>brakes are the most import safety component on that vehicle! If they cannot
>make your brakes work to showroom spec or close, they are *defective* and
>should be replaced without delay - simple as that. I informed (in writing)
>BMW service that if they would not fix my sucky/dangerous K1200RS brakes, I
>would file a report with the National Highway Safety Administration
>forthwith, indicating that my brakes (and many others) had a known 
>defective
>braking system that was a safety issue. Within hours of receiving this
>letter (faxed from my dealer to them) the BMW NA service department saw 
>some
>value in paying to rebuild the entire braking system and thereby fixing the
>problem. Polite but tough *may* be the only way, but of course *only* after
>you have given your local dealer where you purchased the bike every 
>possible
>opportunity to rectify the problem. Why I did was partly in collusion with
>my dealer to help him get the support he needed. What I suggest above is
>clearly a compromise (you pay parts) that can work for pervasive problems
>like this thay may require some trial and error.
>
>Greg Girard
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jonathan Schulster <Schulster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 5:36 AM
>Subject: brake lever excessive travel
>
>
> >Hi ST/RSers,
> >Long time spent 'lurking' and occasionally reading the list.
> >I have the problem of *very* excessive brake lever travel before they 
>bite.
>When they do they are powerful and progressive.
> >Does anyone have any good ideas on how to permanently resolve the 
>problem?
> >I have tried rebuilding the caliper and lubing the pins, bleeding the
>brakes etc. but the problem seems to come back after a very short time.
> >If this has been fixed on 2000 models, is there a new design of caliper
>that I can upgrade too?
> >
> >This is really the only flaw on an excellent machine.  A friend with a 
>'91
>VFR tried it and was very impressed... guess what he's saving his pfennig's
>for this year :)  He was not too impressed with the brakes, when he nearly
>overshot the first bend :(
> >
> >Thanks for the interesting and useful posts!
> >Jonathan
> >Darmstadt.
> >ps. if anyone is into art/architecture I just moved into the latest (and
>sadly last) creation of the artist Friedensreich Hundertwasser - the
>Darmstadt Waldspirale - check out www.bauvereinag.de/ and click on
>'Waldspirale' for photos).  STers passing through SW Germany are welcome 
>for
>the tour. Just drop me a line first...
> >
> >
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