Re: [ST] (RS) Wolf Can Fitting, Now Remus

[Dennis Griffin <eagleeye@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sorry, forgot to update Subject. Comments from others welcome as well. I
will post a follow up upon resolution. I don't mean to take away from Remus,
seems a good system, just not the expected fit due to adapter pipe
configuration on this application.

Dennis
Scottsdale, AZ
'00 RS, miss me yellow


On 8/7/02 11:12 PM, "Dennis Griffin" <eagleeye@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 8/7/02 6:10 PM, "Erik Miner" <axeis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> No!  My Remus fit PERFECTLY no fiddling at all.. Sounds great, looks great,
>> and awesome build quality.. Like everything you get what you pay for.
>> Erik
> 
> Erik,
> 
> I would love to say that I feel the same as you regarding Remus. However,
> having just mounted a Remus Genesis Ti on my RS, I can't wholly support your
> opinion. I have seen your high opinion regarding Remus expressed several
> times, and it was certainly influential in my decision to buy Remus, and
> from CarboTex as well. The part about sounds great, looks great and awesome
> build quality (as regards the can), I fully support. It's the fit perfectly
> part I have difficulty getting behind. Sure, everything fits together
> nicely, but in my case, the final alignment left a bit to be desired.
> Initially, I mistakenly received an adapter pipe for the ST, the p/n ending
> in 001, instead of the RS pipe, which ends in 101. Honest mistake, I
> suppose, but a rather considerable difference in bend, and in the hanger
> bracket. After receiving the correct pipe today, I try fitted the pipe to
> header and can to pipe, and that was all fine. But when I put the two
> together on the bike, I started to become concerned. With the adapter pipe
> on the header to what I considered a reasonable engagement depth, and the
> can on the pipe to its full engagement, the mount bracket mounting hole to
> hanger mounting hole relationship came up over an inch shy. So after 20
> minutes with a Dremel and tungsten carbide bit, I had managed to reduce the
> mismatch of the hanger bolt holes by maybe 1/4", so the rest was going to
> have to come from reduced engagement. So as it now stands: the adapter pipe
> has maybe a 3/4" purchase on the header, or maybe an 1/8" beyond the end of
> contraction slot; the pipe is only maybe half of its maximum engagement into
> the can; the can to pipe retention springs are stretched to their max; the
> hanger bolt is in place, forcing alignment during tightening; the vertical
> axis of the can is about 10-15° off of the vertical axis of the bike; the
> longitudinal axis of the can is also about 10-15° off from the longitudinal
> axis of the bike; the outermost point of the rear of the can is about as far
> east as the end of the long hero peg on my right footpeg (I have a
> centerstand); things are in something of a bind, pulled up by the mounting
> bolt. Looks good from the side; looks goofy from the rear with the can
> headed south by southeast. It goes down the road and sounds good. Feels
> good, too, but I'm still on tune 11 @3%, with stale gas, and it's hot here,
> so I'm sure it will feel much better when it's dialed in. When I got where I
> was going after the install, I put the bike on the centerstand, as it was
> during the install. When I stepped back to admire the look again, I noticed
> that the swingarm was hard against the adapter pipe, and the bottom of the
> right passenger peg is only ~ 3/16" from the can.
> Did you really not experience any of this? My bike is stock as regards
> anything that would affect this fit up, and it's never been down, so nothing
> should be tweaked. The two problem areas I see are the dimensions and angle
> of the hanger bracket, which I can do a little more about, and the
> configuration of the adapter pipe, which I can't do much about, unless I can
> find someone with a good mandrel bender and pipe stretcher - not likely. The
> stock can was tucked in and essentially parallel with the bike, and that is
> where I want this one to be.
> Any thoughts? I'll try to post a few pics tomorrow, and maybe you can do the
> same, so we can compare.
> Much as I hate to, I think I will be putting the stock system back on until
> I can get this resolved. I don't like things being in a bind when there is
> thermal cycling occurring, with welded thin wall tubing involved. I'll be
> sending these comments to Jeff as well, hoping maybe he can get Remus
> involved, if a revamp of the adapter pipe seems in order, which it sure does
> to me as of now. Thanks for your time.
> 
> Dennis
> Scottsdale, AZ
> '00 RS, miss me yellow
> 
> 
> 
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