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Re: [ST] heat cycles
- Subject: Re: [ST] heat cycles
- From: Bryce <bster13@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:37:23 -0800 (PST)
I guess I'm not going to get a straight answer
here....Didn't ask how wearing race take-offs dictate
your street riding....Or how your track time has
influenced your street pace....but thanks for the
insight and observations.
Perhaps I should have modified the question:
"Do u think the traction of your race take-offs
properly heated, equal the traction you receive from a
properly heated street tire that u feel has the most
grip?"
Or to add some flare:
"Which tire would u rather have on your bike if u just
robbed a bank and were riding for your life through
Deal's Gap from 30 state troopers? A race take-off or
whatever street tire u personally feel provides the
most grip?"
Bryce <- Running BT020s and liking them thus far.
- --- chuck boatwright <dirac@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >There's no way in hell I need 100% of the grip that
> a brandy spanking new D207rr can offer on a street
> bike. Even in an emergency situation it would be
> pointless because the bike's chassis is not set up
> to handle it.
> >
>
> This kinda sums it up. You can't ride on the street
> like you ride on
> the track. There are alot of street riders who ride
> faster than I do on
> the streets. Since I started pouring most of my
> "discretionary*" budget
> into the track, I have pulled my street pace back a
> notch. I know how
> fast I can go. And I want to be able to do it again
> tomorrow. And
> since there are no oncoming volvos/winnabegos/SUVs
> at the track, that is
> where I hone my hi end skills. On the street I just
> enjoy riding, and
> working on the basics: body position, smooth corner
> entry/exit, smooth
> throttle/brake transition. I have done a number of
> slow speed skill
> development tasks on the street, such as trail
> braking corners. You
> can't trail brake at speed if you don't have the
> motor skills in place,
> and braking, turning in, dropping a gear or two,
> coming off the brake,
> easing back on the gas and hitting the apex is alot
> to do at once [and
> when you get older, it takes a little longer to
> learn things]. Granted
> this is a fringe skill for most club racers, however
> it was one which I
> came to fairly naturally. My race bike is stock,
> and down on
> horsepower, so I make up for it with as many riding
> tools I can maintain.
>
> The best street tire is then very subjective. My
> "best tire" is one
> which I am comfortable riding with. Would I put a
> set of take offs on
> my sprint, then go for a 2000 mile weekend tear to
> vancouver and back?
> No. That might not be wise. Likewise, knowing
> that you have a set of
> takeoffs on the street ride should keep your right
> hand at bay when
> "tempted." Without the mindset "I have the best
> tires, I can pull it
> off" you crash less and live longer. So, my best
> tire might be very
> different from your best tire. So despite this
> perhaps pedantic
> response, the best tire might just be the one which
> you know, and have
> the skills to use. Skills only come from practice,
> they don't come from
> sitting in the basement, in front of the computer,
> going "blah blah
> blah" about tires on the internet. I am going for a
> nice wet ride.
>
> --chuck
> 02 st
>
> * discretionary in this case means "can I live
> without beer and eat
> only beans and rice for the next two weeks, so I can
> afford those back
> to back track days at ______ racetrack"
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