Re: [ST] Firearms all the way! - long rant

[Dave <dbardell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Alex,

It may be the justice system, not the countries themselves.  Seems like 
here in the good ole USA, the courts are more interested in the rights 
of the criminal than the loss of rights of the victim.

But the sun is shining today and I think a ride on the ole ST will clear 
my head.  (Triumph content)

Dave Bardell
01 ST
02 Gas Gas Pro Trials



Alex Ozzard-Low wrote:

>Sorry guys, but I couldn't resist all this gun stuff...
>
>Singapore has one of the lowest rates of handgun crimes of anywhere in the
>world.  Penalty for owning any gun (or even ammunition) is hanging - no ifs,
>buts or maybes.
>
>Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership levels (not exactly
>ownerships, but I believe military weapons are still kept at home) along
>with an amazingly low hand gun death rate.  There are more murders annually
>in the relatively peaceful town of 100,000 where I live than in the COUNTRY
>of Switzerland
>
>In the US handgun ownership is quite high, and the murder and general crime
>rate is amongst the worst for developed nations.
>
>So it's gotta be the people, not the guns right?
>
>So what is it going to take to clear the crime rate up?  I have two handguns
>in the house, primarily for sporting purposes, but I'd give them up tomorrow
>if something like the Singapore rules could be applied.  Note the use of the
>word applied - we have all the rules we need here in the US, they just
>aren't applied.
>
>I've lived and worked in some of the most violent parts of the world, e.g.
>Medellin, Colombia, where the city of roughly 2 million had 6,610 murders in
>one year in the mid-nineties, and most crime is because some wants something
>you have that they can't afford or need to sell in order to eat.  The US
>seems to be different - in Houston, a few years ago, a colleague's 14-yr-old
>son was killed for his tennis shoes and a movie ticket, and this doesn't
>seem to be totally abnormal.  I can take precautions against meeting up with
>someone who wants to steal my wallet or watch, but not against someone who
>might shoot me because we argue at a supermarket checkout.
>
>In how many medium to large US cities is it safe to walk the streets at
>night?  It's time that our families can go to the mall without fear of
>muggings, rapes and murder, time people can live with having to look over
>their shoulders.  If it offends a few people because their guns get taken
>away, tough.  The biggest problem is that if the guns ARE taken away, no-one
>will truly enforce the rules, meaning that you still have criminals with
>guns.
>
>The solution seems to be EITHER take away all guns and apply rules, OR legal
>reform which is waaaay overdue.  Taking the guns away is just fixing a
>symptom, not the disease.
>
>As an aside, today's local newspaper reports that the survivors of a fire
>which resulted in several family deaths caused by electric heaters, are
>suing the GAS company.  The logic?  If the gas company had provided gas, the
>electric heaters wouldn't have been in use in the first place...
>
>Apologies for the rant.
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-st@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-st@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
>rmasiak
>Sent: 27 March, 2002 5:51 PM
>To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [ST] Firearms all the way!
>
>
>You go Andy!  A few yahoos spoil it for the rest of us sportsmen(women).
>
>
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