RE: [ST] Are "sticky" tires worth it

["John Petrey, Jr." <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 12:12 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote:
>Well said.....

Good comments, all. No doubt some 'super-sport' tires are slow to warm up 
and only function at full potential when ridden in track-like situations. 
Is this my typical environment while riding? Of course not. Yes, I wear out 
the middle of, or square off, my tires, too. It was not me who was talking 
about having my peg feelers on the tarmac 5% of the time my bike is 
running. Or posting pics of holes scraped in the lowers. But I have had a 
lot of luck with, in particular, Pirelli's Dragon Evo Corsa. During the era 
of this tire the Dragon GTS was their 'S-T' tire. I tried a set of them and 
liked them. Steven Kholscheen swore by them and still does, AFAIK. Then I 
tried a set of Dragon Evo's and liked them better. The next time I ordered 
tires the dist was out of these but had Evo Corsas so I tried them and man 
were they sweet - fast to heat up, decent in the wet, VERY confidence 
inspiring. They just feel so planted --they stick. I went through several 
sets of these. But now they are discontinued and I'm going to try a set of 
Avons. And I will watch out for all the things you guys have warned me about.

Versus BT010/020's: I never like these much. Felt 'greasy' to me. Kinda 
like a super-sport tire in the last third of its life;-) And not that great 
in the rain either, to me anyway.
Versus any Dunlop: I have never run Dunlops, didn't think I would like them.

I'm really not one of those guys who has to have the stickiest tires. But I 
do know what feels good. And what works well for me. And in the past I have 
gotten better functionality -both perceived and realized - out of the tires 
I mentioned above.

One question though. As far as heating up during commuting, normal (slow) 
riding is concerned why is that a problem for you guys? I mean, don't you 
use tire warmers on her while you're at work?

John Petrey

>Matt Heyer
>'01 BRG Sprint ST
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rmcclaran@xxxxxxx [mailto:rmcclaran@xxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:51 PM
>To: st@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [ST] Are "sticky" tires worth it
>
>
>Thanks to all who chimed in and those who responded off list as well. Like
>alot of folks I was one of those guys who had to have the stickiest tires I
>could get last season. The Dunlop 208's were great for the first 1200 miles
>or so but as they wore (quickly wore) I had less confidence in them than my
>old 010front/020rear combo.
>This past Sunday I went on a 470 mile bug killing rampage with a friend on a
>big heavy slow ass BMW GS running metzler dual sport tires. Now mind you, my
>tires are well worn to both edges and I ride fairly agressively. But this
>guy left me like I was on a goldwing on a 40 mile stretch of twisties. And
>he's got 12,000 miles on them, plenty of tread to go. I don't think it was
>the tires that made him faster. Truthfully how many of us real world riders
>are REALLY using all the stickieness a sport tire offers; how many of us are
>sliding into turns and spinning out of them like Valentino Rossi. (If you
>are why on earth are you riding a Sprint?) Even when I'm riding on my edge
>I'm leaving 15-20% for a margin of error (I don't want broken bones either).
>I don't want to compromise to save money, but I sure don't want to throw it
>away either. I'm convinced the marketing of sport tires to 98% of us is just
>that, marketing. And I don't think modern sport touring tires are a
>compromise. Cheers, Robbie
>
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