Re: [ST] Road & Track: 0 to 100mph to 0

[Bryce <bster13@xxxxxxxxx>]

Those are some valid points Mike and I'm with you in
that a bike may be able to go 0-100-0 quicker than a
car, but we're talking about the track here.  

On the track neither vehicle is coming to a complete
stop and have some inertia going when they accelerate,
and aren't braking down to 0 mph on a corner.  The
biggest difference I see here in road course testing
vs. that test in Road & Track is that u're talking
straight line, whereas on the track the car has the
ability to enter the corner hard on the brakes and
brake through the corner if need be much more so than
the Motorcycle, thus giving it an advantage IMO
because the bike needs to get it's braking down b4
turning for the most part.

Bryce
- --- Rocky Mountain Motorcycle Holidays
<mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Road & Track did a piece in '95 pitting several
> exotic cars against a
> Kawasaki ZX9R which really sparked my interest since
> I owned one before I
> realised the sun rises in the East, from right over
> Hinckley. At the time
> the ZX9R was a 535lb bike with about 115hp at the
> back wheel, which ran in
> the low to mid 10's in the right hands (not mine).
> Great brakes for its day,
> but not as good as the STs and not nearly as good as
> my Speed 4 (due to lack
> of weight), or any of the current crop of sub-400lb
> litre bikes from Japan.
> 
> The fastest car was a modified Porshe 930 Turbo with
> over well over 600 hp.
> Second was a Hot Rodded Shelby Cobra. The
> Lamborginis & Ferraris were
> several seconds off the pace. The Corvette, Acura
> NSX and the rest were off
> by another few seconds.
> 
> The Porshe was the fastest from 100 to 0 also with
> the Acura coming in
> second. Rear and mid-engine...Interesting.
> 
> Road & Track enlisted one of the editors from Cycle
> World to ride the ZX9R.
> Probably an outstanding rider with some track
> experience. The bike
> absolutely squashed the cars from 0 - 100, but also
> beat the Porshe in the
> braking marginally. I can't remember the exact
> numbers, but I think the Kawi
> was under 14 seconds and the Porshe was over 16 for
> the whole 0 - 100 - 0.
> What I liked best about reading the article was the
> fact that the bike had
> come back to a stop before all but the two fastest
> cars had even hit 100mph.
> Yeah Baby! I am sure that the latest generation of
> 180 hp, 380lb litre bikes
> will knock another second or more off the ZX9Rs
> time, I doubt that the
> latest STOCK exotics are going to be much faster
> than that hopped up Porshe.
> 
> Now before we assume that OUR bikes will out brake a
> car, I just read an
> article in TWO (great mag from the UK) where they
> did a piece on braking
> with pointers from Niall Mackenzie. One of their
> editors (with an admitted 3
> years of experience) who I suspect is an OK to
> decent rider was outstopped
> by the master Niall by 60 feet from a measly 46mph.
> Holy Shit! That is the
> length of two buses! From only 46 mph.
> 
> My take on this. In the right hands a bike will
> outbrake most cars, but if
> you think YOU can outbrake most cars, you'd better
> be a pretty damn good
> rider especially in wet conditions. As soon as the
> snow melts around here,
> I'm going to be practicing my braking.
> 
> All the Best,
> 
> Mike Ciebien
> Rocky Mountain Motorcycle Holidays
> www.rockymtnmoto.com
> 
> 

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