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[ST] Crank story continues...
- Subject: [ST] Crank story continues...
- From: David Earl <dlearl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 20:25:22 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
>I should also point out that I didn't say that I agreed with the
>suggestion that removing the camshafts was actually easier/quicker, just
>that some might argue that it is (I've heard the comment before myself)
>anyway, it's a moot point on '02 and later
>cheers,
>Neil
My biggest fear would be that the tech wouldn't give a s**t about how the cams were removed and replaced, he'd just get them out of the way and back in as quickly as possible. In my previous post I alluded to conversations with a couple of tech I really trusted. A couple of other things they pointed out to me was that the <'02 cams/heads are a matched set, individually machined. You mess up a cap by putting it in backwards or in the wrong spot, you buy a new head/cams, you gouge a cam pulling it out, you buy a new head/cams, you tweak the head by not torquing the caps in the proper sequence to the proper values, you buy a new head/cams. You get the picture. This is not work I would trust to anyone who didn't know enough about Triumphs or do enough Triumph work to own a proper valve adjustment tool. ( A whopping $49 investment, IIRC)
> YMMV of course. As an engineer I tend to optimize (as I've been told),
> and I just call'em the way I see them.
I totally agree with Tom. The tool allows you to do two valves at a time, and after the first time you do them yourself, you should know exactly what needs to be done from the MEASUREMENTS (provided you keep proper records) The first time I did mine, it took ~ 6 hours, which included LEARNING how to do it, fixing my tool after I'd bent one tong, running to the local speed shop for shims, then installing a timsert in the hole I stripped by following the f**king manual's toruque values (which turned out to be a >2002 ST manual, see my previous post) and removing and replacing the tank 3-4 times to re-route some of the hoses which I believe had been wrongly routed at the 20K service, which I could do because I was travelling. I suspect, like Tom, I'll need 2-3 shims this time around. If I can't do the 30K in under two hours, it's because I've either been drinking too much, or not enough, coffee! :-)
btw, at said 20K service, a FACTORY TRAINED TECHNICIAN forgot to replace one of the valve cover bolt O-Rings when he replaced my valve cover. Now the FACTORY PAPER WORK says that the 20K service, which I paid for in full, isn't done until said tech does a 10K (6 mile) test ride. How he missed the fact that oil was running down the bleeding thing like the "gusher" scene from "Giant" I'll never know, but boy was I pissed when I picked it up from the Federal Allied terminal in Denver after they'd done the service and shipped me the bike. I relate all this so you can put in perspective MY opinion of having a NON-Factory trained wrench wrenching on my bike WITHOUT the proper tools, and doing completely unneccessary R&R to make up for it. YMMV, thanks but no thanks. I'll do it myself.
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