Re: [ST] Dead Serious

["Zoltan Pavlakovich" <zpavlakovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well that's what pilots are - contol freaks. That's their nature. But 
obviously he's messing with the wrong croud.
I never liked Yahoo and don't see any reason to jump ship.

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "STeve Duncan" <xhippy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:24 PM
Subject: [ST] Dead Serious


>
> OK, I've been holding my tongue.  Biding my time.  I had my tirade.
> I apologized for my language, but NOT for the gist of my remarks.
> There is/was a reason for that.  I don't usually express myself in
> totally profane language (a little here and there), but I was pissed.
>
> I'm still pissed.
>
> Bear with me here, friends, I'm probably gonna ramble a bit.........
>
> This list has been around for 6 years.  It's always been a source of
> friendship, and incomparable knowledge for Sprint owners.  It still is.
> Only one thing has changed over the last few weeks, the subscription
> of one new member.  Then the shitstorm started.
>
> Now, I don't know what the motivation of this person is.  But I have my
> opinions.  I think this person is a manipulator of the highest order.
> I think this person has a power fetish.  I think this person is all about
> himself and self promotion.  I think this person is a divider.  And he
> "gets off" on causing turmoil in places that he has no investment.
> Mainly he just wants to be "the guy" and screw the consequences.
>
> The consequences a big folks.  It's a matter of keeping this group
> integrated, or splintered, nothing less.  Let me ask you this one
> simple question.  Will the "other" list simply close up shop once
> "our" list, THIS list is up to HIS standards?  I think not.  I KNOW
> it won't.  And exactly just what is wrong with this list as it stands,
> right now, today?  Nothing, I tell you.  Sure we've had a glitch or
> two (very convenient for him), but internet lists have those problems.
> Every list I've ever been on has "brownouts".  But we continue to
> operate.  Only we have someone trying to siphon off our membership.
> Don't do it, friends.  It's a trap.  "They" will NEVER go away.  This is
> not some friendly group trying to "help".  Like I say, they will NOT
> shut down the "other" list after our "construction" is over.
> I call BULLSHIT.
>
> We have been a complacent bunch around here for awhile.
> That's not always a bad thing.  Hell, I work hard, this is supposed
> to be fun time.  And it always was until this subversive showed up.
> Fuck you, doode.  (Sorry, I will try and stay focused).  Yeah, our
> website is a joke, years out of date.  So What?  No skin off my ass.
> What is important is this list and more importantly, the PEOPLE here.
> Two lists divide us.  We were here first.  I hope we all stay HERE.
>
> Think about it, for a moment.  Why did we need a second list.  RIGHT NOW?
> Only one reason, to satisfy the ego of one person, who knows nothing
> about the main thing we have in common, the SPRINT!  Connect
> the dots, people, it's not about the bike with him, it's all about HIM.
>
> THIS LIST AIN'T BROKEN!!!  And what needs to be fixed is being
> worked on.  Trust me.  Besides, Triumphnet will only be fixed from
> here not from anywhere else.  Do we want to be "just another list"
> or do we want to be Triumphnet.  Oh, and all you RS riders, you
> are being totally ignored over there.  We have ST and RS.
>
>
> Think about these facts.  This interloper has created at least two lists
> that by his on admission, he still moderates, even though he no
> longer has any connection with the machine the list serves.  BUT
> he still wants to be in control of the list.  He is now trying to do
> the same thing with a list that serves a base for a bike he doesn't
> even own, and knows little, or nothing about.  This is ludicrous and
> laughable, if it weren't so serious.  Divide and conquer, using a soft
> voice, that is the modus operanti here.  Don't be fooled, friends.
>
> If this guy wants to start his own list, fine.  It's a free internet.
> We can all choose where we want to belong.  You can do both
> I suppose.  But please be aware of what is really going on here.
> He ain't our friend if you value the history of this list.  It's an
> unfriendly takeover guised as "just a temporary thing".
>
> This guy has an obsession with "Yahoo", that is obvious.
> Nothing less is acceptable to him.  I prefer to stand my ground
> and stay right the fuck here.
>
> So here is my challenge to you.  Choose.  Here or there.
> We have to stand united, or we will be lost in cyberspace.
> Yeah, yeah, corny, maybe, but I see it as a fact.  How
> important this issue is to you, only you can decide.  It's
> important enough to me that my fingers hurt right now,
> and you are probably tired of my rant at this point.  I'll shut
> up.
>
> And Emile, cause I know, YOU have read this far, you are
> getting off on this whole shitstorm too much to not be
> reading every word posted on the subject.  Please do us
> all a favor and unsubscribe from this list.  Go do your own thing
> with Yahoo, I don't care.  But quit infecting this list with your
> egomaniac obsessions.  Go away.  And pray you never meet
> me in person.  Seriously.
>
> Dead Serious.
>
>
>
>
>
> dunc
> eL Donut
>
> STeve Duncan
> '00 Sprint-ST
>
> somewhere out here
>
>
>
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