Re: [ST] What are the non-cosmetic differences between RS and ST?

[Neil Lindsey <NeilLindsey@xxxxxxx>]

I sent this out earlier, but it seems to have gone into the dreaded
black hole, so here is attempt #2

by now most of it has been covered -- I missed the stiffer front springs
in the RS though (probably because I wasn't absolutely sure if it was
true or not, even though as an ex-ST owner, it feels like it to me)

cheers
Neil

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Lindsey" <NeilLindsey@xxxxxxx>
To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: January 31, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ST] What are the non-cosmetic differences between RS and
ST?


>
> If it was an '04 RS it probably had the SSSA?  A few (4 from what I
> heard) of this variety made it to Canada in '03 (none to the US), and
> then in '04 an unknown quantity arrived in the US.  Prior to these
> 'parts bin specials', all RSs had the DSSA.
>
> The RS IS slightly lighter and narrower than the ST, both primarily a
> result of the differences in bodywork (& instrumentation I guess).
And
> as you noted, the RS has no stock centrestand.  The RS does have a
lower
> handlebar rise too, which should have a noticeable effect.  And if the
> RS you rode had the SSSA then that's about it.
>
> On the other hand, the RS with the DSSA sits slightly higher in the
back
> and this makes a small difference in the steering geometry (the frame,
> and steering head angle are the same, but raising the rear end changes
> the rake slighlty, resulting in a quicker turn in).
>
> There are other small differences that relate to the DSSA vs SSSA
> variety (swivel exhaust on ST, different rear footpegs), but none that
> would be likely to be perceptible while riding.
>
> Engine-wise they are identical, which is not to suggest that you might
> not feel a difference if the bikes had different tunes in the ECU &/or
a
> different slip-on, etc.
> Stock gearing for the years ionvolved ('03/'04) are the same, but are
> you sure the loaner didn't have a different countershaft sprocket?
>
> And tire condition/brand can make a huge difference in how the bikes
> will feel.
>
> There's probably a few other things I've overlooked, but that about
> covers it.
>
> Cheers,
> Neil
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gavin Lawrie" <gavin.lawrie@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: January 31, 2005 4:20 PM
> Subject: [ST] What are the non-cosmetic differences between RS and ST?
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Partly in the hope of dragging focus of list back to bikes... the
> > question about differences between RS and ST.  I had my ST get its
12K
> > service from Jack Lilley today (came back feeling like a 'new'
bike -
> > not sure what they did but it really made a positive difference -
but
> > glad it did as service was very expensive!) and they loaned me an
'04
> > RS.  I've not been on an RS for a while, and so it was good to be
able
> > to do a back-to-back comparsion of the two bikes: I got to do
> basically
> > the same 30 mile mixed road route four times today - out and back on
> ST
> > and back and out on RS.  What surprised me was that they feel so
> > different to ride - but I can't work out how or why.  The RS felt
> > lighter, and narrower, I rode it lower in the corners and found
myself
> > riding it one gear lower on the same roads.  It also had the stock
> seat
> > - which I found much less comfortable than the Triumph gel seat on
my
> > ST.  But I had forgotten how good the instruments on the RS are
> > compared to the ST.  Anyhow - hence the question: I had assumed
until
> > now that they were mechanically identical, varying only in the
faring
> /
> > centre stand etc.  Are there other differences - or am I just
> > hallucinating?
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Gavin Lawrie
> > ST'03
> >
> >
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