RE: [ST] Steering

["Chris Harwood" <Chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have to object to "..only counter-steering can initiate a turn."
otherwise I agree that with so many people being able, in practice, to
get powered two-wheelers (PTWs in the UK) to go around corners it's not
a life-threatening topic.

In my days of pedal-cycling, I could get round most corners with no
hands on the bars but that is because of the bend in the forks.  The
centre of mass of the fork/wheel/bars assembly is ahead of the axis of
rotation so leaning the bike applied a moment that steered it in the
direction of lean.  Getting back straight probably took some body-lean,
out of the turn.

Yaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnnn

Chris Harwood
00 RS that obviously behaves differently as did my BSA and Honda all
those years ago.

>>> captainquack@xxxxxxxxxx 14/03/2005 14:49:20 >>>
Matt, it's not a question of "most effect".  You just can't steer a
bike
without counter-steering.  The bike just goes it's own way.

Body position, leaning etc help to maintain lean angles and other
aspects, but only counter-steering can initiate a turn.  Certainly you
can improve your cornering by body position, but you must understand
and
practice counter-steering to  initiate a change of course.  Where you
are on a bike can influence the lean angle (witness the Trials guys
and
slow-racers) but can't make it take a new direction.

Of course, at this point we are just picking nits.

Andrew F. Kay, Jr.
Riders of the Lost Empire, LC,  13355 79th Street, Fellsmere, FL 32948
www.lostempire.com   andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
"Sound, sound the clarion, fill the fife, throughout the sensual world
proclaim, one crowded hour of glorious life is worth an age without a
name." Thomas Osbert Mordaunt, 1730-1809



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-st@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-st@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Heyer, Matthew A.


If you use only one, yes counter steering has the most affect.  Using
both will get you the most out of your turning.  


Matt Heyer





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