Re: [ST] headlight

[Neil Lindsey <Neil.Lindsey@xxxxxxx>]

Sorry -- there was a fatal flaw in my logic

What I meant to say was that if only of the high beams still works when
key is on and dipswitch is in high beam position, then you pulled the
high beam relay that comes with the bike by default.

Sorry about that.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neil Lindsey" <Neil.Lindsey@xxxxxxx>
To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [ST] headlight


> Adding the correct relay to the open slot definitely gets beams acting
> together in unison.  No other changes required.  Only trick is to
> identify which relay to replicate.
>
> One of them is headlight cut-out relay (for starting purposes only)
and
> hitting starter opens ground to both headlights.  For the ones near
> battery -- one is main power relay and the other may actually be
starter
> solenoid..
>
> So I've been sitting here trying to think of a cute test that would
> determine which of the other two is the right one to replicate but the
> solution may be simpler.  I have a hunch that only one of them is even
> going to fit in the spare socket, so check that first.
>
> And if that doesn't help, try this.  Put dipswitch on high beam, pull
> ONE of the suspect relays and then turn on ignition switch.   If
neither
> headlight will turn on when you flip the dipswitch, then the relay you
> pulled was the headlight cut-out.  However, if low beam still works
then
> you the pulled the CORRECT relay and that's the one you need to
> replicate.
>
> The reason this works is because the headlight relay that's there
> already activates the second high beam circuit, which we know works.
> Adding the other relay activates the low beam that doesn't work now.
> IOW, one low beam is powered directly and the other is
relay-controlled,
> and one high beam is powered directly and the other is
relay-controlled.
> In Canada, we get both relays stock.  :)
>
> HTH
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marc Van Est" <MarcVE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:09 PM
> Subject: [ST] headlight
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I ended up having to remove the cockpit/fairing to get the bulb out,
> as the wiring clip had jammed.
> >
> > Seeing as I had it all off anyway, I decided to see if I could fit
the
> missing relay and get both dip lights working.
> >
> > I had another look at the pictures Emile Nossin posted on :
> >
> > http://piloot.smugmug.com/gallery/412756
> >
> > (Thanks Emile)
> >
> > Then I came unstuck, the relays on my '04 RS are not in the same
> place, they are tucked in behind the right hand side cover, just below
> the seat and to the right of the battery.
> >
> > The colors of the tape wrapped around each bundle of wires looks the
> same, but the relays have different numbers to the one Emile used.
> >
> > Here are the relays on my bike:
> >
> > White - no relay, just the slot to plug it in.
> > Red : Hella 4RA940010-71
> > Yellow: Hella 4RD003520-13
> > Blue : indicator relay
> >
> > I have jpg of the relays if someone wants to have a look at the
> layout. ( There are also two relays just behind the battery, but no
> spare slots. )
> >
> > Anyone know what the spare slot is for (white), and if it will power
> up the second dip, which relay to buy?
> >
> > If not, can I just bridge the two dips, or am I going to overload
the
> existing relay or wiring?
> >
> > thanks a lot,
> >
> >
> > Marc
> > Cape Town, RSA
> >
> >
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