Re: [ST] for Marc -

["Masiak, Richard" <Richard_Masiak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm not sure if it comes into play either, however even with loss of traction there must still be some precession forces present.  Whether or not they still play a roll, I don't know.

Reason I know there is some forces present is because if a low side is caused by tucking the front it can be saved by applying force with your knee.  I haven't (at least I don't think so) had the chance to perform this feat, but I do know of people that did.  I saw one first hand on the track behind someone.  To do that, I surmise there must still be some forces in the wheel present, so when he regained traction the forces took over again.

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From: Emile Nossin <Emile@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>>But if at least one wheel
>>is still turning you also have (here we go again) the precession
>>force of the wheels that will want to resist the lean change
>>(the gyroscopic "stability", which is actually more "extreme
>>neutrality" since it is a retarding / resisting force, not a
>>stabilizing one).

I'm not sure where this comes into play going around a curve once traction is lost and the bike is falling/sliding from loss of traction.
 

Matt Heyer
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