Re: [ST] For John

[John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> But these days when someone hurts a motorcyclists,
> even when it is the car-drivers fault, the attitude
> seems to be that the motorcyclist had it coming to
> them since motorcycles are the
> problem/dangerous/etc. 

This is a good point, Matt, and I dont think we
disagree on it at all. I can certainly get my hackles
up when I feel a motorcyclist is being chastized for
just being a motorcylist. It might sound like I am
talking out of both sides of my mouth, but I am not. I
think we are on the same page here, and, I would
guess, so is just about everyone on this list. Fair
justice is what is needed in these cases. While it
wouldnt be fair to the driver at fault to penalize
them more becuase the guy they hit was on a bike, it
would also certainly be wrong to penalize them less by
saying "oh, well, he was on a bike anyway, so he must
have been at fault/the problem/drinking or whatever".
And that has certainly happened. It happened to a
friend of mine. Lady made a left turn, plowed into him
standing in trafiic on his bike. She was clearly at
fault. He needed recostructive surgery on his leg,
pins, therapy for a year, etc. Troopers thought he was
drinking, becuase the guy has a red nose and ruddy
complexion. I happen to know he doesnt drink at all,
let alone on a bike. They wouldnt let go of this, and
consequently didnt cite the other driver. He should
have  demanded a breathalizer for himself, but heck,
when you are laying in pieces, the legal bullshit is
the last thing on your mind, especially when it
clearly looks like the other person was at fault.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 10:45:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [ST] other topic: world cup
> 
> 
> Nate,
> 
> I'm reading your post, and I feel your "brother
> motorcyclist" rage, as I have felt this many times
> myself. However, and I am guessing you read the same
> article I did, there is nothing in the text that
> immediatley implicates the woman as being at fault.
> Just because she drove into his path does not mean
> that he had the right of way. They seem to want to
> do
> a "thorough investigation" before issuing a
> citation.
> That tells me right there that they probably think
> it
> was his fault, and are shelving it so that they
> don't
> have to cite one of their favorite sons. My guess is
> if they thought it was her fault, she would have
> been
> cited right away.
> 
> I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for these overpaid
> underbrained athletes that think they are
> invinceable
> and above the law. They get themselves a Hayabusa or
> a
> Gixxer or whatever, have no riding experience or
> training, and go out without the proper gear. Then
> something happens to them and everyone feels sorry
> for
> them. Ultimately, it makes us, the motorcycling
> population as a whole, look bad to the rest of the
> unriding world. I dont know what this guy's story
> was,
> what experience he had, etc. But this other athlete,
> Kevin or Kenneth, or whatever the hell his name was
> (
> I guess you can tell I am not a sports fan ! ) that
> cracked up here in Cleveland a year or so ago was
> really a fiasco. This guy, who had never ridden a
> bike
> before, zero experience, buys a GSXR 750 from a
> local
> dealer, takes it out to a parking lot and proceeds
> to
> do stunts and wheelies with it , without a helmet.
> There was a security video from the parking lot
> showing all of this, right up to about a few seconds
> before the accident, which happened just out of the
> field of the camera's view. He road a wheelie
> towards
> the end of the lot, put the front wheel back down,
> realized he was too close to the curb, tried to
> brake,
> tried to turn, hit the curb and he and the bike went
> ass or teacups into a tree or whatever. The facts:
> he
> is an idiot, and deserves no sympathy from anyone.
> The
> fallout: Local 6:00 news blames the BIKE, as if it
> has
> a conscience, local sports fans are calling the
> owner
> of the dealer that sold him the bike and making
> death
> threats ( I know the guy ). Local LEOs have their MC
> radar on full blast. It's nothing but bad press for
> us....AND, in  today's article about
> Roethswhatevergliger, this incident is even
> mentioned,
> and very incorrectly states that he was wearing a
> helmet and it flew off just before the impact. When
> the video very clearly shows him not wearing a
> helmet
> at all....On top of everything else you can't rely
> on
> the news media to give you an accurate account of
> anything. I was involved in a boating accident
> several
> years ago that made local news. What they reported
> as
> happening was so far from reality it wasnt even
> funny....
> 
> Sorry, this shite makes my blood boil.
> 
> On top of everything else, one of my best riding
> buddies went down this weekend, lowsiding into a
> guard
> rail. With the good gear on he has four broken ribs
> ,
> a collapsed lung, a broken jaw and several missing
> teeth. But he's no one special, just a normal guy
> like
> you and me, doing it right and wearing all his gear.
> Nobody cares about him. But the football player,
> poor
> guy....Yeah, poor stupid bastard.
> 
> OK, I feel better now...
> 
> John
> 
> 
> --- Nathan Maher <nate@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > > I'm still trying to get used to the fact the
> > Pennsylvania repealed the
> > > helmet law. 
> > 
> > I'm still trying to figure out the following
> quotes:
> > 
> > > Roethlisberger was between radio interviews and
> on
> > his black 2005 Suzuki Hayabusa -- a large,
> > racing-style bike -- and heading toward an
> > intersection on the edge of downtown. A silver
> > Chrysler New Yorker traveling in the opposite
> > direction took a left turn and collided with the
> > motorcycle, and Roethlisberger was thrown, police
> > said.
> > 
> > follow that with...
> > 
> > > The other car was driven by a 62-year-old woman,
> > police said. No charges were filed.
> > 
> > No charges were filed?  She turned into his path
> of
> > travel causing an 
> > accident, jesus, what does she have to do, kill
> him
> > in order to make it 
> > worthy of an f'ing ticket.
> > 
> > Nate
> > 00SprintRS
> > 
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