Re: [ST] New rider to the list

[John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

--- Neil Lindsey <Neil.Lindsey@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> very interesting, especially about the MC size and
> force required
> 
> surely the difference is more than just caliper
> piston seals then -- I
> wonder what it is
> 
> how do the brake levers compare?

Pretty much the same...
> 
> Neil
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Ulizzi" <jaulizzi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [ST] New rider to the list
> 
> 
> >
> > and it would be nice if we
> >> could get input from
> >> someone that has had experience with Nissen
> brakes
> >> on other motorcycle
> >> brands
> >
> > Hey Neil,
> > Interesting that you mention that... you are
> correc
> > that the Triumph has steel lines stock. My SH also
> has
> > Nissin calipers that take the same pads as the
> > Triumph. They appear to be functionally, although
> not
> > cosmetically, identical ( same size and number of
> > pistons, etc...), and also the same MC... and they
> > couldnt feel more different. The SH actually has
> more
> > free lever travel now than the RS, and, it
> actually
> > has stopping power, but it requires many times the
> > lever pressure. I am not talking percetages, i am
> > talking 3 or 4 or 5 times the pressure to acheive
> the
> > same stop. So much so that at the end of the day
> on
> > that bike, my right hand aches. I need all four
> > fingers, and have to squeeze hard, wheras on the
> RS,
> > two fingers is sufficient for all but a panic
> stop,
> > and they are much better modulated. The SH, by
> > comparison, also feels very wooden...
> >
> > And they are pretty much the same brakes...
> > John
> >>
> >> since you mention 'braided steel everything' on
> >> Superhawks, I might as well
> >> mention that all Sprints use braided steel brake
> >> lines too -- the braiding
> >> is just hidden from view
> >>
> >> I agree with your overall perspective though --
> >> Sprints have excellent
> >> brakes and, for me anyway, the upgrade is not
> >> justified
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "John Ulizzi" <jaulizzi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:12 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [ST] New rider to the list
> >>
> >>
> >> >I gotta say I am puzzled by this whole brake
> >> > conversation....my 02 RS with stock brakes has
> by
> >> far
> >> > the best brakes I have ever
> experienced...Better
> >> than
> >> > my 99 VFR with linked brakes by considerable
> >> margin,
> >> > as well as my Superhawk with braided steel
> >> everything,
> >> > Brembo pads and Brembo cast iron floating
> >> rotors...
> >> >
> >> > I can haul my RS down from any speed with two
> >> fingers
> >> > only. I cannot imagine better, as more stopping
> >> power
> >> > would simply lock the front wheel. Am I missing
> >> > something ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> > --- Nathan Maher <nate@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Thanks Neil, that's exactly what us "older"
> >> sprint
> >> >> riders needed to hear.
> >> >>   Now to start hunting the bay for a good deal
> on
> >> a
> >> >> used set.  Hopefully
> >> >> we all won't be bidding each other up for the
> >> next
> >> >> couple months! :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Nate
> >> >> 00SprintRS
> >> >>
> >> >> Neil Lindsey wrote:
> >> >> > Since this has been asked several times, I
> >> decided
> >> >> to look it up on my fiche
> >> >> > CD
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The front calipers are identical for ALL 955
> >> >> Sprints
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Neil
> >> >>
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