Re: [ST] [SPAM] Re: st Digest, Vol 26, Issue 3

[Dave Bardell <bardelld@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Paul,

56K on my 01 and never a bit of trouble.  50mpg (US Gal) and a great all 
around bike. 

Dave Bardell
01 ST
Millerstown, PA

Lodder, Paul wrote:

>Gents,
>
>I've just joined the group - mainly to eaves drop to find out more about the
>Triumph (ST) before I decide to buy. From what you are all saying is this
>bike worth purchasing given all the issues that you are raising??? What with
>faulty ECU's, dirty switches, missing engines (not literally!) I'm becoming
>a little sceptical......
>
>Regards,
>
>Paul
>
>Paul Lodder
>Clinical Support Officer (191)
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Earl [mailto:dlearl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Friday, 4 May 2007 11:08 AM
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>Subject: Re: [ST] st Digest, Vol 26, Issue 3
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 07:06:17 -0700
>From: Al Garvin <agarvin@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [ST] Engine Dying
>To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>David,
>    I have had this sort of thing happen twice in 60K miles on my 2000 
>ST. Once it happened at a gas station as I had stopped to fill my tank 
>and for some reason I had to move to another pump, so I started the bike 
>  and immediately dropped it into gear and then stalled it. After 
>filling up the bike would not idle. I rode it several miles stopping at 
>lights with it dieing. Took it out on a freeway and ran in several miles 
>and then pulled over. It died and after about 3 minutes I restarted it 
>and it ran fine. I attribute this to the throttle body sensor getting 
>out of step with the ECU and it taking some time for the ECU to 
>recalculate its position. The second time it happened, an new problem 
>had developed in that it would idle at 1200 rpm with the clutch in at a 
>light, but would jump to 1800-2000 rpm it it shifted into neutral. The 
>bike died on me as I was coasting to a stop at an inspection station a 
>couple of times. I took it to the Dealer and had the O2 checked and set. 
>Never found out of it was out of spec, and also had the sport bike tune 
>checked. I have a Power Max exhaust on it. After coming back from the 
>dealers the idle problem is still there but it has not died at anytime 
>since unless I shut it off. I alway use the ignition key to stop it and 
>never the kill switch. I have heard that using the kill switch does not 
>give the ECU enough time to make note of the current throttle body 
>position and to take other readings before it stops.
>Al
>
>
>I checked all the FI related wiring and all seems well.  I have two new
>things to check, the fuses, to make sure there's no intermittant crap in
>their, and the ECU.  Like you state, it looks like an ECU issue.  The
>battery was out for two weeks while I performed the service and fixed some
>little problems, so maybe it needs to be reset.  I'll look into that.
>Like you, I always use the key to shut down, never the killl switch.
>
>Is there not a user-servicable ECU reset proceedure?  I know the engine
>light will stay on for three start cycles.  btw, my check engine light never
>comes on, until the bike dies.  
>
>I rode it about 25 miles today, and some clarity and another issue emerged.
>Twice, right before the engine died, so did the tach.  Once idling in my
>garage just after I got it buttoned back up from checking all the fuel tank
>wiring, and then on my way to work the tach quit and it immediately died
>when I let off the throttle.  (It ran fine for about a 1/4 mile without the
>tach)
>It also seems to happen nearly always at idle. Yesterday it stumbled twice
>under power, today once.  But it rarely will idle more than a minute without
>stalling.
>
>Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 07:28:46 -0700
>From: "Young, Mike" <myoung@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [ST] Engine Dying
>To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>I had a bit of an issue with my '06 at about 2,000 miles where the kick
>stand switch went a little iffy on me. It was pretty obviously the
>problem because the engine would quit on one especially rough patch of
>roadway that I cross almost every time I ride. I pulled the switch off,
>cleaned everything in the area, and re-installed it and the problem
>hasn't been back. 
>
>
>
>I gave that a good check today.  All seems well.  Once again, it rarely
>happens underway, always at idle.  It seemed to have quit after I sprayed
>the switch with contact cleaner, but it came back as soon as I started
>riding.
>
>Thanks,
>
>David
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