Re: [St] I can't decide...

[John Ulizzi <jaulizzi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Paul,
 
You have an ST, and RS, and an SV? Wow, I guess you would be the guy to talk to... Please expound on your reasoning for recommending the SV. It is the Standard, BTW...

--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Paul Traina <pst@xxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Paul Traina <pst@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [St] I can't decide...
To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 3:16 PM

Make that SV-4... and I would definitely go with the 650, not the  
650S... well, if wishes were horses...

Tiger 675
DL650
SV650
Tiger
Sprint ST
Sprint RS

The Sprint just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense there.  Sigh.

On Nov 24, 2008, at 6:22 AM, John Ulizzi wrote:

> Dave,
>
> No one will banish you from anywhere. It is interesting though that  
> out of three responses, the score is SV-3, RS -0, and this on a  
> Sprint list !!!
>
> As far as visiting Costa Rica, you or anyone else on this list would  
> be most welcome once I am a bit more settled in. Perhaps by this  
> time next year that will be the case. Among other things by then I  
> would expect to have two wheels of my own, as well as access to  
> other bikes to rent/borrow for when visiters come. The best time to  
> be there is December thru March. It is the dry season there, and  
> coincides with the "party to mostly shitty" season here...
>
> :-)
>
> --- On Mon, 11/24/08, David Bardell <bardelld@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: David Bardell <bardelld@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [St] I can't decide...
> To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:32 AM
>
> John,
>
> At the risk of being banished from the ST list, I personally would  
> go with
> the Suzuki.  Owning a Sprint ST and having owned a V-Strom 650, the  
> Suzuki
> was a better commuter and much easier to get around in traffic.
>
> I sold it to get an 07 Tiger that I really like, but still wish I  
> had the
> Suzuki back quite often.  Probably will someday sell the ST and get a
> used SV or V-Strom.  Gas mileage was about the same, but the strom  
> was much
> more enjoyable in close quarters. I envy you going to Costa Rica,  
> would love
> to visit these and or retire there if my IRA ever comes back.....
>
> Dave Bardell
> in snowy/cold/miserable Central PA
>
> On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:24 PM, John Ulizzi
> <jaulizzi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> OK folks, here's a nice motorcycle thread for wintertime when we
cant
> be
>> riding. I need to make a decision on a bike purchase, and soon, I  
>> have
>> narrowed the field to two, and am weighing the merits of each.
Here's
> the
>> story:
>>
>> I spend a significant portion of my time in Costa Rica. My  
>> significant
>> other is there and eventually I will move there. We have a car, a  
>> Suzuki
>> Gran Vitara, that is absolutley perfect for our needs there. But  
>> there are
>> two of us and only one vehicle. Vehicles are expensive there and so  
>> is
> gas,
>> so I would like our second vehicle to be a bike. It will be enjoyed  
>> to be
>> sure, but unlike my bikes here in the states that are pure toys,  
>> this will
>> be my daily driver. I need something that is flickable and  
>> manuverable for
>> inner city traffic, congested on tiny little pothole filled roads,  
>> that
> will
>> also handle the occasional weekend two up trip. Out in the country,  
>> the
>> roads are tight and twisty and small, like the goat paths so many  
>> of us
> ride
>> in West Virginia at Mail Pouch. My two choices are an 01 Sprint RS  
>> that is
>> already there, owned by someone I am acquainted with, and I am  
>> familiar
> with
>> the bike, at least I was a few years ago. Bike is, or at least was,
>> in good shape the last time I saw it. About 5000 miles, bone stock  
>> except
>> for maybe the OEM can and tune, and has mostly sat since 03. The  
>> other is
> an
>> 01 SV-650 standard, owned by a good friend that I know and trust  
>> here in
>> town. 4000 miles, great shape, lots of goodies, pipe, jet, fox shock,
>> emulators, give top box, sitting for a year or two. The total cost  
>> to have
>> either bike on the road down there, factoring in transport, import
> tariffs,
>> etc, is similar, about $5000-5500. Budget has narrowed my choices  
>> to these
>> two, but the decision between these two isnt about money. Its about  
>> which
> is
>> the better horse for the job.
>>
>> Pros for the Sprint are:
>> -Higher performance machine with similar fuel mileage
>> -Higher residual value , athough I am not sure that matters...
>> -Better two up
>> -I am familiar ( put 5k miles on this bike's brother, and own a 02
RS
>> myself)
>> -Better headlights ( but I can augment either)
>> -Much less screwing around. Write check, register, title, ride.
>>
>> Cons for the Sprint are:
>> -It's heavy and has a long wheelbase. Not really flickable
>> -Clutch pull is hard. Only a problem in city traffic.
>> -Long reach to bars, leaned over a bit for city riding.
>> -I trust the american owner, but not so sure about his associate I  
>> need to
>> deal with down there.
>> -I already have one. (Which I may sell...)
>>
>> Pros for SV:
>> -Smaller, lighter, more flickable
>> -Cute as hell. ( Yes, the RS is gorgeous too...)
>> -Upright riding position.
>> -Givi top box. Read: Lockable hard luggage in a land where one doesnt
> leave
>> things unattended
>> -Probably easier to work on.
>> -Probably wont shred rear tires like the Sprint
>> -Plenty of power, not the equal of the Sprint, but that may keep me  
>> out of
>> trouble...
>> -Light enough to put on 80/20 tires and handle dirt roads ( no,
it's
> not a
>> dirt bike..)
>> -I just picture the SV being a better street fighter, where I will  
>> spend
>> most of my time. Safety is an issue here.
>>
>> Cons for the SV:
>> -I am guessing not as good two up. I dont know that for sure. ( Not  
>> alot
> of
>> two up riding, but some)
>> -Carberated. Could be pro or con. easier to work on, doesnt deal with
>> altitude changes so well. Most of my time will be spent at  
>> 4000-5000 feet,
>> but I will go from sea level to 13,000 feet occasionally
>> - I have to go through the hassle of importing it. That is probably  
>> the
>> biggest, and perhaps only con for the SV. HAssle factor and time
>> constraints. Part of me really thinks the SV is the better choice.
>>
>> Opinions please !
>>
>> John
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