Re: [ST] New rider to the list (Brakes)

[Neil Lindsey <Neil.Lindsey@xxxxxxx>]

I don't think changing the MC will resolve the problem of the lever travel
changing throughout the day -- it might make it less noticeable because
lever travel will be reduced significantly.  The down side is that more
lever pressure will be required to brake as hard (at least I think that's
how it works), but there's plenty of braking power anyway

seems that CHANGING lever travel issue is in the calipers, but I'm surprised
you notice change over such a short timeframe

I'd clean first, and see if situation improves

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Needham" <gbdiver@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ST] New rider to the list (Brakes)


> Of course it helps Brett. ALL constructive input works. I like the idea of
> swapping out the MC to start with and then take it from there.
>
> My main concern was the travel extending throughout the day. The brakes
> still performed as well as I like them too, it was the 'feel' that kept
> changing.
>
> As soon as the brakes arrive I will be changing out the fluid and cleaning
> the calipers to start off with. Then onto the oil change.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <brettwilson21@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [ST] New rider to the list (Brakes)
>
>
>>
>> No worries Mark.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can tell you that there are a bunch of methods that will work, it just
>> depends on what your personal preference is.
>>
>>
>>
>> As has been said, swapping the calipers works. You can also change the
>> whole system if you want, there a few that will pretty much bolt straight
>> on. I have seen this on a few bikes so I can confidently say its a
>> solution.
>>
>> Personaly, I have left the factory system in place. Cleaning the caliper
>> pistons is just part of normal maintenence for me. I do this when the
>> lever travels gets to be more than it should or around every 2000 -
>> 3000kms. I also bleed the system about every 5000kms.
>>
>> Horses for courses and all that.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Brett.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Needham <gbdiver@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 7:18 am
>> Subject: Re: [ST] New rider to the list (Brakes)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Brett,
>> t seems there is a wealth of information regarding the upgrading of
>> brakes.
>> ittle difficult to know which way to go.
>> M~
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> rom: <brettwilson21@xxxxxxx>
>> o: <ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> ent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 2:00 PM
>> ubject: Re: [ST] New rider to the list (Brakes)
>>
>>
>> Hey Mark,
>>
>>
>>
>> This subject has been absolutely done to death several times over.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is also an open letter sent to Triumph detailing owners
>> disatisfaction and urging them to have the system fixed.
>>
>> Do a search on this list's archives and also have a look on
>> triumphrat.net
>>
>>
>>
>> You will find dozens of threads on various ways the subject has been
>> approached.
>>
>>
>>
>> Brett.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Needham <gbdiver@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: ST@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 3:50 am
>> Subject: Re: [ST] New rider to the list (Brakes)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a little confused, sorry.
>> Lever travel, to me, indicates wear on the pads. The fluid in the MC
>> eservoir pushes out the piston taking up the slack caused by the wear on
>> he pads. This results in the level of the brake fluid droping slightly.
>> On
>> he next pull of the level the point where the pads start to engage the
>> isks (rotors) should remain constant.
>> The impression I am getting is that the pistons are retracting fully back
>> nto the caliper and not taking up the slack. Something is wrong there.
>> I have ordered new brakes and they should be with me by the weekend.
>> opefully I will have enough time to do a complete strip down and replace
>> hem (coaching again this weekend).
>> I like the idea of swapping out the calipers to the 6 piston 'Busa but
>> will
>> hey bolt onto a 99 model ST?
>> Thanks to all for your input, you have left me food for thought.
>> Mark
>>
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